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Hay 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Touching the Shannon. Easy side is the best. Will probably leave in swarths until Wednesday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    I thought the whole idea of hay was to dry the grass!

    Seriously though,I couldn't imagine a much Ireland unsuitable short term forecast to pull out a mower.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    West clare right on the coast. just finished knocking about 7 acres with drops of rain on the windscreen as I finished. I think the sw of the country is going to miss the rain for once, but after seeing the crop I'm not that confident of getting Hay but I'll give it a go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Im committed now as it's on the ground. Great drying day, a few drops this evening but nothing major. It's going to one of those, where it's taken it day by day. Once tomorrow's rain is out of the way it should start motoring



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Same here all we can do now is try our best and hope the weather gods play ball.

    Sunday is looking doubtful now so we will be up against it to have it ready for the baler by Saturday but like you say just have take it day by day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    No, contractor will come in rake and make rounds. I have got a small square baler but I can't get it going. I think the timing is out somewhere as it makes a terrible banging noise if you try to run it. It's my winter 2024 project. My haybob is on its last life after the last breakdown, (I say it every year I'll get a tedder for myself this just might be the year!!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    The forecast is changing the whole time in past 5 days. I have a feeling this hay could be down for over a week



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I got 90 bales from around 10 acres. Baled last Thursday after 10 days. Only got showers. A very stressful aspect of farming.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Just on that I wonder what is the longest people have had Hay down for and still turned out ok quality wise ?

    7 or 8 days would have been the longest here I'd say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man


    It's far better to salvage decent haylage than poor hay. Hay needs not much rain to be poor.

    Post edited by kk.man on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Depends on how far it is gone when it gets rain and for how long after before you can gather it. But in general one wetting isn't the end of the world, not much impact on quality if it is got a few days after.

    I remember making hay that was down for nearly 3 weeks by the time it was baled, it looked ok but the bales had no weight, you could throw up into the air like as if it was a football. Cows still ate them come winter, but they also had to get supplemented with ration or they'd have starved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    I alternate hay and silage for feeding dry cows. Really keeps them fit and keeps the focus on making the best possible silage for all growing stock.

    Got a good soak this afternoon, but hopefully get the first turn on it tomorrow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man


    If it hasn't been turned its got some chance. I wouldn't bother if it rained on it again. I saw too much hay looking grand till it's open in the winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Yeah today was a disaster as never stopped raining all evening.

    It's going to be a miracle to have any Hay fit for baling by Saturday now especially with temperatures struggling to get near 20 degrees.

    I'm resigned to wrapping mine but we'll see how it goes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I’d say a lot of hay that was made earlier this summer is heating in sheds. No proper hay weather really until the last fortnight and even that hasn’t been ideal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    You need to accept wrapping as a possibility before cutting these days. But that's hardly the end of the world either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    100% was a high possibility alright especially this summer



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Gudstock


    Do u find wrapped haylage bales going off or heating if left open and not used quickly enough?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx



    If you can't use them up quick enough, you need more cattle 😁.
    Or maybe split them between pens of cattle.

    It is better to make the call to wrap earlier rather than later though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Turning it out as we speak. Has blown up into a good day here. Lots of pockets of blue sky and loads of wind. It's a big help



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I'm sure it has gone better for some than others. Weather can vary significantly from one end of the country to the other, type/density of grass and not choosing to wrap when really should have will definitly have left some toasty. Plenty of hay made is fine too.

    I've seen some very black grass baled up too, some people just don't know when to quit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Spun it out with the Haybob this afternoon, stuff is very rough with lots of weeds through it, but theres some amount of feeding if i can get it. I really don't want to be wrapping it.

    idk, I saw one lad bale up stuff that was too fresh, you could smell it heating. but i think anyone who knew what they were doing got to bale it fit. In June we had two good opporunities for anyone who took a chance, I made the best of hay a few weeks back, but the Summer hasn't been great with no long clear blue sky days this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Cut some myself this evening, forecast is vague but this would be got quickly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    @minerleague @Silverdream @mr.stonewall

    How's the Hay coming along for ye.

    Mine saved well since yesterday considering the lack of sun but there's a good breeze most of the time. Got second turn today.

    I'd say I'd get it by Sunday afternoon but the question is will it hold dry till then 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Yesterday was savage day. Today has been good as well. Baler is booked for Sunday, wrapped or hay is still up in the air. It's take it day by day and field by field



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Yeah same plan as myself but just worried rain could arrive early on Sunday and when it's that far gone rain would be a disaster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Going good, today was a great day in the west with plenty Sunshine and a nice breeze. Parts of the meadow are fit already, the lower parts where the crop is heavy will need another 2 days to get it fully dry.

    I'm surprised the way you can save hay without extreme heat, I think a good breeze is as important.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    If you were more familiar with the clothes line you'd have that worked out before now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Question is will is hold dry until Sunday evening as forecasts are showing drizzle and light showers for both Saturday and Sunday.

    This weather is a bloody disaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    We'll have to start growing hay in Polly tunnels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    dirty mist this morning, but looks like its brightning out now. Weather isn't great but I can't control it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Yes, plan is for Sunday, forecast wouldn't fill you with confidence. Middle of meadow is coming along good, some high hedges around meadow and it's heavy ( grassier if thats a word) under them. Wont be wrapped either way as this is real old meadow (protected from river by banks) and is bitter in silage but makes lovely hay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Turned again. Lovely breeze sun started break thru, but cloudy again . Like minor league middle of meadows are nearly there. I have one meadow that won't make the cut by Sunday so will wrap it instead, it's just too grassy. Still taking it day by day as to whether we will have hay or not



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Had just finished turning mine earlier n it made a dirty drizzle down on top of it.

    Wouldn't mind but it was progressing well.

    Hard to know when your doing the right thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Yeap nearly there, today is a great day on hay, serious strenght in that Sun along with a breeze. I have it all rowed up now for baling this evening. I dont think I'll have a major amount of bales in the 7 acres, I'm thinking about 40

    Not bad for a few hours work though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Im the opposite. Heavy drizzle all morning. Blue sky now ,but cant touch it as it's still damp. Will probably wrap it all. Reassess it again in the morning and make the call



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Same as that here - heavy drizzle this morning and a cracker of a day now so don't know what to do. Head says to wrap it this evening but the optimist says give it a turn today when top dries and see how it is tomorrow.

    Just thinking like others have said if I do have to wrap the earlier the better so hard to know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Ended up baling as Hay late this evening after a great second half to the day here.

    Time will tell if it was the correct decision when I check them for heating after a few days 🤔



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Baled and wrapped some attempted hay for a friend today after wrapping up some silage for myself. Great few days but would have needed a few more to get hay and Monday looks to be a washout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Same here, turned out great day, although contractor said lots of places with heavy showers last night and this morning. Could have left it till tomorrow but contractor anxious to finish up tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    I'd rather have left it till tomorrow too but was just too afraid of it getting wet again to leave it.

    I'll be sickened if tomorrow turns out a good day now but that's the way it goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Heavy rain here last night, glad to be wrapped up. Taking a week off tractoring now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Still have't baled yet, contractor had a breakdown, in fairess he did offer to get another lad to bale it late yesterday evening but I said we'd chance it till this afternoon. The day looks ok, it might brighten out later on, but at least the rain isn't on the forcast now. This morning is the first morning that we didn't have that dirty mist either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Baled it up just after lunch only one field made the cut for hay, nearly 50 bales. The rest wrapped up. Got a serious thunder shower while in the middle of the last small meadow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Got 25 round bales made there this evening. It was still a bit green but tomorrow is been given as a pure washout round here. It was ment for silage light meadow and dired out quickly so turned it Friday and yesterday. Will leave it to season for two weeks before putting it in the shed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    The fact it was green how soon would you expect it to heat if it was going to heat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    There's 4 bales over in a shaded corner I expect to heat a bit, I'd say it could heat today if the rain doesn't come. I only baled yesterday cos today was given so bad round here and now this morning that's changed again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    All baled up yesterday afternoon. 46 bales intotal, 300 euros to the contractor going out the gate, I thought it was great value when you consider the value of hay.

    Its hard to know what the quality will be like, it smells good and is fully dry and crackling when baled but it had 2 mornings of very heavy wetting mist and even though it dryed off fast each day I do think it reduces the quality of the hay. Definitely not as good as the June hay I made, thats silver green dry hay, this stuff is more coarse and bleached more.



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