Dangerous Dogs Owners

Similar things happened in Sligo recently, dog spotted off lead and not muzzled.

I know you are posting about restricted breed, but this is happening every day, dogs unleashed. And no one pays attention..

I was driving yesterday a young lady had a bull terrier type dog, not an XL. Tge dog is obviously young and boisterous. She was holding him around the body to prevent him from running out at the car. I was gone well.past when I realised he had no muzzle. She had one of the body harnesses on him and obviously ge was to physically strong for her to control properly.

I cannot under stand when trying to train a dog like that people will not use a choke chain until they learn to not pull on a lead

I think what he would have done is what dogs do to pups who get out of line - they growl and sometimes nip to teach them a lesson. Of course a "nip" from a lab hurts a human more than a pup. But no I don't think he was going to kill you except that you were "above" him in the ranks. I think he thought you were below him or ought to have been, and he was telling you to behave yourself.

And I really think that's very different from an attack like the one that this thread is about. Partly because your dog wasn't a fighting breed.

Yes, people need to be very careful with small children and animals, but I don't think they're all "trying to get up the social ladder" - and ready to kill to do so. That's a whole other thing altogether IMO.

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I didn’t know that .
The reason he snapped at me was pain because I hurt his paw . I used to play with him by running down the lane and sticking my arm out and he’d get my arm in his mouth and drag me down playfully . A great dog who in his latter years , being blind and deaf would come into the house and sniff around and lie down beside me . He knew better than to go to daddy or he’d be out on the street . Strangely I remember petting him on the street then went out to the shed and lay down to die .

it has ? I’m watching Dogs , An amazing Animal Family and they’ve just finished a segment on the hierarchy of dogs . Both in packs and with humans. . I haven’t read any peer reviewed papers on the subject but anything I can find online would disagree with you . The nature of the social system might change depending on who joins the ’pack’ but there is a social aspect rather than a linear hierarchy

As I understand it, the original theory/theories about dominance within a pack were developed from observing wolf packs in zoos. Which, as has been pointed out since then, is the equivalent of developing theories about human society based on observations in prisons. Wolves in the wild are (apparently) far more cooperative and far less aggressive to other pack members than those brought up in captivity.

Good news, the XL Bully is to be banned.

Obviously enforcement will be key

Every time I go out I see dogs that are supposed to be muzzled with no muzzle. On the walkway the other day guy had one off the lead. There are a few mainly men that have the xl bullies around here and never have I seen them muzzled and there is one guy who walks his without a lead in a busy residential street that has lots of kids playing nearby. You can't say anything to them because there is the risk of getting verbally abused or worse.

I don't think banning and restricted breeds is the answer to all this.

I have a lovely Westie who is well mannered but could easily tear the fingers off a child if it really wanted.

The solution I believe is that it should be made extremely difficult to own certain animals like dogs , cats, horses etc.

Licences shouldn't be with the dog. It should be an animal licence that's required to own animals.

To get licences you should be required to get training etc.

That's brilliant. That will completely eliminate dog attacks. Problem solved. Great news.

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Which ones ? American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bulldog, Staffordshire Bull Terrier. ??

Pitbull is not a breed.