VW ID.4

I'm reminded of that scene in the Simpsons where Lisa tells Homer the check engine light is on and he just covers it over with tape 🤣

I can assure you that you'll need it, we don't even have the buggy anymore and the boot was wedged with stuff. The shopping from Carrefour ended up in the kids footwells 😂

But if they can't see them if they covered in tape?

Does anyone know what the deal is with VW garages having such long queues for repairs? Are the cars really that unreliable that the garage is full or are they constantly short staffed?

It's not just EVs, it's everything. I was sniffing around an ICE Audi last week and went online to their fixed price servicing site to see how much for an oil change. Had to make a dummy booking (in Audi Cork) for this - next appointment September. Yip, over two months for an oil change!

Yeah the guy who was fixing my AC was saying he'd been trying to get an appointment for his diesel Golf and it was a 2 month waiting list around Dublin

I think one of VWs money making tricks is they charge a lot of money for garages to certify their technicians on certain systems (e.g. EV batteries)

In turn the garages want to keep costs down so they'll train the absolute minimum number of people. Trained staff also probably have some more job mobility, so they're likely to leave soon or demand higher wages

I remember asking about getting one of the door handles looked at and was told the door handles person wasn't in that day

They charge €160 an hour, how much of that goes back to the person who actually earned it?😔

Yeah I have to second this opinion, every time I'm in a dealership it's all a big fancy showroom with lots of smart looking people in suits wandering around doing feck all

I'd be more impressed seeing a dozen lads working on cars with all the equipment and knowledge they need to do their jobs in a timely and efficient manner

Picked up my pro plus this morning. Screen definitely the first noticeable improvement. I like the micro fibre on the seats to. Haven't had much of a drive yet but seems equally as comfortable if not better on the 20s versus 21s on the gtx has plenty of power but haven't stretched it's legs yet

The only thing is the all wheel drive but to be honest I can't say I miss that I just liked the reassurance of knowing it was there.. the gtx is a odd thing.. even the new one has the battery limitations of only giving you the extra power over 80% (I think) that really is a cod as you are advised only charge to 80% anyway for battery care and even if you go to 100 which I always did you might get 45 minutes driving before you are below 80% the 286bhp with the new motors are plenty in the pro plus. I liked my gtx.. it felt like version 1.5 of the id4, this update feels like version 2. Doing west to east coast this afternoon so looking forward to seeing efficiency comfort etc..

Agreed. Just back from Sligo to North county Dublin. 15kwh average consumption..driving speed limits and 115 on motorway.. definitely ive more range than the gtx...arrived back with 60% left and something like 320km range left. 204km driven

I'm looking at pre-2024 ID4, and wondering about the spec of each of the different models. Obviously, the VW website only shows the spec of the 2024 models. Is there anywhere i can get the spec of the older version?

You can edit the URL to get the older product guides, here's the MY23 one

https://www.volkswagen.ie/idhub/content/dam/onehub_pkw/importers/ie/models/product-guides/my23/ID4_MY23.pdf

At the end of the day you're still going to be limited by the discharge power of the battery

Most of them can only discharge at 3-4C, or 3-4 times the battery capacity. For a 77kWh battery that's around the 250kW mark which is what the GTX is currently rated for

If you want to get more detailed, the C rating is actually a measure of current against the battery capacity. So a 100Ah battery discharged at 200A is discharging at 2C. The voltage is mostly constant for lithium batteries

Often batteries can only maintain high discharge rates is a narrow range of SoC and temperature. This is probably why the ID.4 GTX only gives 250kW over 80% SoC and once the battery is around 25C temperature as I recall

You can in theory go beyond this but at the cost of accelerated degradation, or setting the battery on fire if you go REALLY outside the spec sheet. Easy to see then why VW played it safe

There's newer batteries that can do higher discharge rates, I think CATL showcased a 5C battery recently, so that'd be a 350kW ID.4 for comparison. I think it's safe to say those will be a ways off though

I see they have the 4motion available in GB

I recently did some Tokyo drifting at a junction after being slightly too enthusiastic on the accelerator. Wasn't even a wet road or anything

I remember thinking afterwards that some front wheel drive would be nice now and then

i went for black metallic this time on the car and everything just blends in.. first black car ive had.. everyone tells me it looks great but terrible for keeping clean.. last colour was moonstone grey which everyone hated apparently.. just didnt tell me till i got the black one..

The Moonstone colour is lovely, don't mind them.

does anyone know whats included with the new id4 service packs? when picking mine up last week my dealer was out sick and the other person said there was a pack included but wasnt sure of the details.. last time there was two tyres included. I will give him a shout when hes back at work but curious if anyone else knows?

Picking up a 242 ID4 today at long last. Just wondering if anyone has any week 1 tips in terms of do’s and don’ts to make it easy to settle in?

What kind of efficiency are you getting so far?