Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

Good luck in finding the space to maintain footpath width, some parking at locations, a bus lane and a traffic lane in either direction and a wider cycle lane on top of that!

Like Ireland's attempts at decent public transport infrastructure, completely swamped from day 1.

It was clear the design lacked ambition but it was a good proposal for it's day, it's just that this was proposed about 10 years ago and times have moved on. It just takes so long to get things done in Ireland. I expect the bus connects corridors will also be over subscribed from day 1 when they are eventually complete.

The clontarf scheme was clearly set up to maximise road space for cars. We still have 6 lanes of traffic in Fairview ffs. I could see a supplementary scheme to reduce the traffic lanes and provide some wider footpaths and bike lanes for some sections.

The public realm in fairview is still crap, that's my main issue. The building side is very isolated from the park side. You have to use a motorway style ped over bridge to get across. There needs to be a lot more ambition.

really it should have a pedestrian crossing or two instead of the footbridge, I don't think it would even slow traffic down that much in the grand scheme of things.

Well that's exactly what is in the plan from my reading of the documents. The junction at Edge's corner when finished will be completely different. It will a single straight across pedestrian crossing. This compared to the horrible go halfway across and be stuck in a metal cage with 5 lanes of traffic around you before crossing all the way.

In addition to the footbridge, which is useful for many (obviously not wheelchairs or less mobile), there is a new level ped crossing going in at Marino Mart beside the Greenland coffee shop per the plans.

DCC also need to add Fairview to their pressure washing programme. The new paving needs regular washing to look good. At the moment around there it looks like a dump with litter and filthy paving.

I wouldn't agree. Motorists break the lights regularly here.

Funny thing about cycling lanes, and I see it often, is that one cyclist doesn't like the speed others are going at or it just gets too full for their liking and they go into the bus lane or regular car lanes. And hundreds of commuters can follow their ass for the next 20 minutes.

This scenario doesn't ever happen in Dublin never mind on the route this thread is discussing

My reward for taking the bike to town in this weather, there were 2 more after this inside the old wall too ffs.

They could easily have pulled into the street beside cusacks too

Put it under the remit of Parking Enforcement?

You complain to the council and the council direct you the gardaí. The Gardaí then direct you back to the council.

The Irish state has built a, dare I say very impressive, Web of responsibility loops. Nobody is actually responsible for anything through a complex set of arrangements that pushes problems around until the complainant disappears.

If you are forceful enough you'll get the privilege of going to a garda station to give a statement which will be hand written on paper, signed by you, and then promptly discarded. I have found the garda with the pen is the 'final boss' of complaining about how horrific rule enforcement is. If you feel you weren't listened to you can contact the ombudsman but then they'll only send you back to loop 2.

Best of luck with that, that truck would be like a ship in the Panama Canal going down there. Plus, the garage usually has all the spots taken up.

You can go around them. It's not hard. Cyclists seem to think they have privileges they don't have. Start paying the same in cycle tax as motorists pay in motor tax then we'll chat.

Until then I'll play the world's smallest violin

Update on C2CC: (Clontarf to City Centre) Most of work will be finished in Sept. And traffic restrictions will end in Sept. Should see a lot of progress in next few weeks as they have night shifts from 12 to 4 most nights. But section along Marino Mart from junction at Joeys to Malahide Rd junction has thrown up problems with utilities underground. This section won’t be finished until October. 2 pedestrian crossings will be installed. One near Cadogan Rd & one at Marino Mart at driving school. Boulders in front of park near bus stop are temporary and will be replaced by railings.