Getting out of electric

Can't see how. Ice cars also have touch screens.

My point was there were large petrols around in 08 that were on low tax rates. That was just the extreme example, if that car came out a year earlier it would've gone from 1800 to 200.

The GS was around before and after the changeover iirc although that only went from 1800 to 700 i think. So same as the old 2l rate. Still good value!

Yes, that was me. Their reasoning is moronic. That makes them morons in my book.

Feel free to try justify their illogical reasoning, I'm all ears.....

Is it hard to blame them? No ev will have the presence of an x5, and presumably the Kodiaq, being a very competent car is doing everything and more the driver needs and aside from saving the planet (allegedly) the ev only introduces complications to life .

I definitely would view going to any ev from an x5 (except an ix maybe) as a serious downgrade.

The self righteous here calling them morons are just displaying their own mental inadequacies.

The kodiaq is 4 years old now and going fine, the X5 is 7 years old and causing all kinds of problems. He wants a new X5 but the diesels are astronomical money and the PHEV will cost a fortune in fuel because he will never plug it in. X5 guy won't even entertain taking one of the EVs out for a day to try it out.

Its an interesting thread. If someone offered me the new VW Tiguan petrol phev for my new id4 pro plus I might be tempted by it. I definitely wouldn't go back to ice only.. it would feel like I'd be admitting defeat to all the naysayers which in itself would be hard to take. Drove Sligo to Dublin last weekend and Dublin Limerick and back this weekend and no hassle at all. In some ways as an EV owner I don't want more ev owners as it would mean more competition for public chargers 😂

Drove a friend's hybrid during the week and got a hop when the petrol engine kicked in.. everything is just so smooth and quiet in the evening.. it's almost to relaxing.

I changed my id4 a year early due to all the uncertainty and noise. I reckon we all be back to petrol if things don't settle down over the next three years

It was a light hearted comment based on you saying "anyone". I mean you were specific about going to an EV from an X5, but still a bit of an exaggeration. Personally I never liked the look of them.

Not to say an X5 is a bad car, but does seem to be more of a statement car than anything else. Reckon EV drivers are a lot more comfortable with themselves.

Morons is a bit strong alright, but it seems these two guys took a huge depreciation hit for (on the face of it seems very poor reasoning) and have now exposed themselves to another big depreciation hit as their new cars trundle towards extinction.

Yeah, I went from an Audi A6 V6 to a Polestar 2. Polestar knocks the socks off the Audi in pretty much every respect.

Horses for courses. I’d have to disagree with you as it really depends on what you want from a car. I had a 2014 Range Rover Sport (6 years old at the time) which is a class above the X5 and I can confirm that other than the high driving position and the road presence it provides I found my 2019 Tesla Model 3 to be better in almost single way. Quieter, smoother, faster, more fuel efficient, reliable, much better tech, adequately comfortable etc.

The Range Rover didn’t even have an auto hold handbrake, terrible technology, crappy reverse camera, noisy diesel engine. Very unreliable and costly to maintain. And this car is considered a class above an X5. It was very comfortable and I felt very proud driving around in it but other than that I would pick a premium electric car any day of the week. That being said if Land Rover sold a fully electric Range Rover I would of pick that over my Tesla, not that I could afford it!

I did. Great price. I reckon that car was ~60k when new. Having said that, you can buy the exact same car from Polestar for around 47k and order the new one for around 46k. Pretty much the same spec as the one in Dunboyne. So the saving is about 26% which is very good, but not exceptional. Still a bargain and the cheapest around.

Your imagination is fairly limited and ego fragile.

If you're crackers enough to be shelling out 120-150k for something based on a soccer moms range rover and is worse than a Santa Fe at half its price, then it's not surprising you might find it hard to imagine someone moving from a badge to something that is so much better by every metric that counts.

If one is worried about what the neighbours think. I genuinely feel sorry for people that fragile and impressionable that they would go for something less than. It's like all the girls dressing the same way.

For such an expensive purchase it does seem very little research was done by both prior to purchase

The details on all cars are easy to find, including proper range etc

Did they think the quoted ltr/100km is achievable in the replacement cars?