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Summer Tours 2024

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Thought there was a case there for England to kick that penalty over and try for the win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Lack of replays of any key incidents



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Although no lack of replays of that final maul 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    Nervy win in the end. Hopefully Barret can take that form to Leinster!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    NZ very lucky there.

    For me always bound and then Barrett kills the ball at the try line.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭scott1974


    Yeah, i thought Barrett absolutely kills the ball.. did they even mention it??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Jordie Barrett is joining Leinster.

    You are confused.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭randomname2005




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    First offence is the obstruction. I doubt they would have looked at Barret because they rarely look at more than one thing and miss stuff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Missed the final decision but looked like Lawrence was obstructing George when the maul broke up to me. What was the call



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭randomname2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    England are a good side though and improving rapidly. They’ve found some really nice players like Feyi-Waboso, Freeman etc, have two good young out halves and have a style that suits them well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    They could be up there with France as the 2nd best team in Europe behind Ireland!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭scott1974


    Yeah, correct decision. I doubt Barret knew that when he took George down...If there wasn't the obstruction then I think it was a penalty try.. anyway, inconsequential now..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    It's worth noting with England that they have lost 4 of their last 5 matches against tier 1 nations (unless you count Japan as Tier 1) and of those 5 matches 2 were against a transitional NZL side and 1 was against a France team that is in disarray.

    England have shown potential of course but what's key now is not to get too carried away, the reality is on paper they are still well behind Ireland & France and still need to prove more and their players need to gain more experience in order to bridge the gap between them and the top 2 in the 6N.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I don't agree. I think they are currently very close to both Ireland and France.

    They are on the way up, with an established coach and a progressing way of playing grounded in good basics. They're forming a selected squad with good young players coming through.

    We on the other hand will be in a phase of change after today's game. Some older players will be phased out, change of focus at coaching level due to Farrell going to lions. France also are testing the squad depth with this disastrous tour, and haven't looked anywhere near their best since the world cup.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Opening try from Australia was terrific.

    Rain could ruin this, though.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,529 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Reminder: England defeated Ireland in their last meeting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    No they aren't, I think a lot of fans are getting a little carried away with how much they've improved. An Ireland team way off their best and a France team in disarray they might have an argument for being close to, Ireland & France at their best are still far superior.

    They could only be on the way up with how bad they were last year. Like I said I think you're getting a little carried away. Ireland & France have good young players coming through also, the key difference is they also have a strong core of experienced players to help tie things together, until England sort this out they will still be in both sides shadow.

    The key difference you need to remember is Ireland & France already have a strong settled squad, so both sides can afford to mix and match now, England cant. Come the 6N when its a level playing field again.

    The reality is the fact we are talking so positively about a team that lost 4 of their last 5 big matches kind of show's where our expectations are for them, whereas with Ireland for instance have lost 3 times in 24 matches and yet we are nowhere near as positive. Again, perspective is needed. Are England improving? Yes. Are they ready to challenge Ireland/France? more evidence is needed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    Exactly, England at their best can potentially scrape a win against an Ireland team playing their worst rugby in about 2 years. Ireland at their best v England at their best = an Ireland win 8/9 times out of 10 realistically.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Wow, Australia really can't defend a maul to save their lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Wales can't defend restarts.

    Second time in a row they've conceded a penalty for holding on in front of their own posts.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Evidence like England beating Ireland the last time they played, and losing by two points to France in France the last time they played?

    I could certainly consider that evidence that they can currently challenge both Ireland and France.

    As for your "4 out of 5" stats, it's probable that Ireland will be "3 out of 4" after today's game, according to the same metrics.

    We're allowed too disagree with each other by the way, no need for the:

    "The reality is the fact"

    "What you need to remember"

    "You're getting a little carried away"

    Make your points without the implicit digs, they're not needed.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,529 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    England are improving, Ireland are disimproving. There's little to nothing between them at this point.

    Ireland will probably have lost 3 of their last 4 games by this evening. Which looks a lot closer to England's recent record than your silly little cherry-picked stats for each country.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Liam Williams is thoroughly unlikeable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Not a massive fan of music constantly being played during a match, but the DJ has played some great tunes during this Aussie match. Even a bit of Silverchair in there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Wales done on a penalty the same way Ireland were last weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Oh dear.

    Wales just did an lreland Vs South Africa. Liam Williams did his best to keep an Australia penalty from finding touch. He managed to do it, but his teammate wasn't switched on/an opposition winger was and Oz had a 20 metre run in for a try.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    That was a real cheap try Wales gave away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Absolute cracker of a try from Rio Dyer.

    This has been a really enjoyable game of rugby. Big last 10 mins now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Wales hit back immediately. A blocked down kick in the Australia 22 and poor tackling from Oz backs for a Dyer try.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Great touchline conversion for Costelow too.

    Converted try will win it for Wales.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭OldRio


    I just read that Georgia have defeated Japan. Fair play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    That's the best I've seen Wales play in about a year. Their forwards showed up and were very gritty in contact. Put some nice attacking phases on as well. That pack led toughness is something to build upon. Against Ireland in the six nations they were bullied. But they've grown and improved.

    But defensively they're very poor. That's two weeks in a row where Australia have scored length of the field trys and it's mostly down to poor defensive positioning. They're also so ill disciplined. They scored two trys and immediately from the restart they conceded penalties in front of the posts, either for holding on or for sealing off. What should have been a 14-0 swing anded being 14-6 and kept them just that bit too far away from Australia.

    Also, despite some nice handling I still think they're awful in attack. There's little in the way of linking passes or forwards and backs interchanging positions to dummy defences.

    Wales have not won a match since October 2023 when they beat Georgia in the World Cup. By the time they play their next game it will have been 13 months since their last test victory. They're in an awful state.



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Correction to my earlier post

    South Africa v Ireland is on Sky Sports Main Event & Sky Sports Action (pre game from 3:30pm, KO 4pm).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    Exactly, Ireland playing their worst rugby in 2 years and France in disarray they might stand a chance, against Ireland and France at their best they lose 8 times out of 10 at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭Shehal


    "Ireland will probably have lost 3 of their last 4 games by this evening" LOOOOL

    If you think after these 2 games that England are anywhere near Ireland you're off you're wagon!!!

    Ireland are in transition but are still competitive, that's the difference. Ireland bring in young players and still win, England bring in young players and lose 4 out of 5.

    There fact England can lose so many games and you defend them just sums up why they arent at Ireland's level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    it’s like something from the 1980s here with the feed from Argentina cutting out every few minutes and Sky desperately trying to fill the airtime



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭OldRio


    It was desperate. Unfortunately not the first time this has happened in Argentina



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    SA team vs Portugal this coming saturday:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Much stronger side for Portugal than I expected tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Me too. Yet, only 4 players in this 23 man squad was in the 23 man squad from the past weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Yeah, I get that, and there are a lot of young guys in this selection (Wessels, Roos, Venter x2, Louw, Horn and Sacha F-M), but still kind of baffled what he wants to see here from 33-year-old Mapimpi, 34-year old Reinach and 35-year old Nyakane for example. Maybe it's simply a case of letting them build some match fitness ahead of the Rugby Championship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Think its like you say, bit of match fitness for his short term plans. But also maybe keep some experience in the squad for the new guys to learn from.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Week 4

    England and Ireland have finished their almost twelve months long seasons, but there’s still a couple of more games involving Scotland, Wales, and Italy as well as the southern hemisphere . Games not on TV* unless stated.

    *May turn up on YouTube or the like.

    Thursday 3:30am Tonga v Spain

    Friday 10:45am Queensland Reds v Wales Sky Sports Action

    3:30am New Zealand v Fiji Sky Sports Action

    Saturday

    10:45am Australia v Georgia Sky Sports Action

    8:00am Namibia v Burkina Faso

    10:00am Kenya v Senegal

    12 noon Algeria v Ivory Coast

    2:00pm Zimbabwe v Uganda

    4:00pm South Africa v Portugal Sky Sports Arena

    7:30pm Brazil v Hong Kong

    8:00pm Chile v Scotland TNT Sports 2 / BBC Scotland**

    8:00pm Uruguay v Argentina Sky Sports Action

    1:00am Paraguay v Belgium

    Sunday 6:05am Japan v Italy

    **This is the English language BBC Scotland Channel, Freesat channel 110 and free to air satellite, not the Gaelic channel BBC Alba that URC has sometimes been broadcast in the past.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Sky coverage of Queensland v Wales appears to have been pulled - may or may not be related to global IT issues happening.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    not the only thing pulled… :D

    there must have been some backlash against the appointment of cory hill as captain.

    https://x.com/WelshRugbyUnion/status/1814231204280860793



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Sky did eventually join the game in the 33rd minute, Wales currently leading 24-14 at half time. This one’s strictly a feed from host broadcaster Stan.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    35 - 31 in favour of the reds, with 4 mins left

    wales LOL



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