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Summer Tours 2024

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    #152
    testtech05
    Registered Users Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Thought there was a case there for England to kick that penalty over and try for the win



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    #153
    TheRona
    Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Lack of replays of any key incidents



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    #154
    TheRona
    Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Although no lack of replays of that final maul 😂



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    #155
    randomname2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    Nervy win in the end. Hopefully Barret can take that form to Leinster!!



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    #156
    ironingbored
    Registered Users Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    NZ very lucky there.

    For me always bound and then Barrett kills the ball at the try line.



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    #157
    scott1974
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭scott1974


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374468#Comment_122374468

    Yeah, i thought Barrett absolutely kills the ball.. did they even mention it??



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    #158
    StevenToast
    Registered Users Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374466#Comment_122374466

    Jordie Barrett is joining Leinster.

    You are confused.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #159
    randomname2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374473#Comment_122374473

    Yeah mixed up which of them was coming



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    #160
    randomname2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    First offence is the obstruction. I doubt they would have looked at Barret because they rarely look at more than one thing and miss stuff.



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    #161
    testtech05
    Registered Users Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭testtech05


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374472#Comment_122374472

    Missed the final decision but looked like Lawrence was obstructing George when the maul broke up to me. What was the call



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    #162
    randomname2005
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374496#Comment_122374496

    That was the call.



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    #163
    FtD v2
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    England are a good side though and improving rapidly. They’ve found some really nice players like Feyi-Waboso, Freeman etc, have two good young out halves and have a style that suits them well.



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    #164
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    They could be up there with France as the 2nd best team in Europe behind Ireland!



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    #165
    scott1974
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭scott1974


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374491#Comment_122374491

    Yeah, correct decision. I doubt Barret knew that when he took George down...If there wasn't the obstruction then I think it was a penalty try.. anyway, inconsequential now..



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    #166
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    It's worth noting with England that they have lost 4 of their last 5 matches against tier 1 nations (unless you count Japan as Tier 1) and of those 5 matches 2 were against a transitional NZL side and 1 was against a France team that is in disarray.

    England have shown potential of course but what's key now is not to get too carried away, the reality is on paper they are still well behind Ireland & France and still need to prove more and their players need to gain more experience in order to bridge the gap between them and the top 2 in the 6N.



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    #167
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,644 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374638#Comment_122374638

    I don't agree. I think they are currently very close to both Ireland and France.

    They are on the way up, with an established coach and a progressing way of playing grounded in good basics. They're forming a selected squad with good young players coming through.

    We on the other hand will be in a phase of change after today's game. Some older players will be phased out, change of focus at coaching level due to Farrell going to lions. France also are testing the squad depth with this disastrous tour, and haven't looked anywhere near their best since the world cup.



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    #168
    fitz
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭fitz


    Opening try from Australia was terrific.

    Rain could ruin this, though.



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    #169
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374485#Comment_122374485

    You and half the irish rugby media...



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    #170
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,472 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374638#Comment_122374638

    Reminder: England defeated Ireland in their last meeting.



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    #171
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374649#Comment_122374649

    No they aren't, I think a lot of fans are getting a little carried away with how much they've improved. An Ireland team way off their best and a France team in disarray they might have an argument for being close to, Ireland & France at their best are still far superior.

    They could only be on the way up with how bad they were last year. Like I said I think you're getting a little carried away. Ireland & France have good young players coming through also, the key difference is they also have a strong core of experienced players to help tie things together, until England sort this out they will still be in both sides shadow.

    The key difference you need to remember is Ireland & France already have a strong settled squad, so both sides can afford to mix and match now, England cant. Come the 6N when its a level playing field again.

    The reality is the fact we are talking so positively about a team that lost 4 of their last 5 big matches kind of show's where our expectations are for them, whereas with Ireland for instance have lost 3 times in 24 matches and yet we are nowhere near as positive. Again, perspective is needed. Are England improving? Yes. Are they ready to challenge Ireland/France? more evidence is needed.



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    #172
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374684#Comment_122374684

    Exactly, England at their best can potentially scrape a win against an Ireland team playing their worst rugby in about 2 years. Ireland at their best v England at their best = an Ireland win 8/9 times out of 10 realistically.



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    #173
    fitz
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭fitz


    Wow, Australia really can't defend a maul to save their lives.



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    #174
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,172 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Wales can't defend restarts.

    Second time in a row they've conceded a penalty for holding on in front of their own posts.



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    #175
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,644 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374687#Comment_122374687

    Evidence like England beating Ireland the last time they played, and losing by two points to France in France the last time they played?

    I could certainly consider that evidence that they can currently challenge both Ireland and France.

    As for your "4 out of 5" stats, it's probable that Ireland will be "3 out of 4" after today's game, according to the same metrics.

    We're allowed too disagree with each other by the way, no need for the:

    "The reality is the fact"

    "What you need to remember"

    "You're getting a little carried away"

    Make your points without the implicit digs, they're not needed.



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    #176
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,472 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374688#Comment_122374688

    England are improving, Ireland are disimproving. There's little to nothing between them at this point.

    Ireland will probably have lost 3 of their last 4 games by this evening. Which looks a lot closer to England's recent record than your silly little cherry-picked stats for each country.



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    #177
    sydthebeat
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    Liam Williams is thoroughly unlikeable



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    #178
    TheRona
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    Not a massive fan of music constantly being played during a match, but the DJ has played some great tunes during this Aussie match. Even a bit of Silverchair in there.



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    #179
    TheRona
    Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Wales done on a penalty the same way Ireland were last weekend.



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    #180
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,172 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Oh dear.

    Wales just did an lreland Vs South Africa. Liam Williams did his best to keep an Australia penalty from finding touch. He managed to do it, but his teammate wasn't switched on/an opposition winger was and Oz had a 20 metre run in for a try.



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    #181
    Dillonb3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    That was a real cheap try Wales gave away



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