USA 2024 presidential election

there is a lot of chat here about Harris not being liked, etc, etc, etc. but when the voter goes to the voting booth will they then vote for Trump - given his COLOURFUL RECORD?

The minimum the Democrats need is someone to be able to counter Trump and his lies that he will spouting at the next debate.

Biden couldn't do that a few weeks ago.

It doesn't matter how likeable Harris is, she just has to expose Trump at every opportunity.

A big part of Labour winning in the UK last week was that they weren't the Conservatives.

It's the same for the Democrats.

Easy for me to say here I know, but Biden doesn't look like he is capable of a long tough slog against Trump.

I think Biden showcased an excellent display of foreign policy knowledge with a level of detail and understanding that is literally impossible for Trump to achieve. But the problem is that the headlines are dominated by him saying 'President Putin' and 'VP Trump'. There is a world of difference between making a slip up on a name and actually believing Trump is the VP, but the media is treating it with the severity of the latter. Biden has been making gaffes his entire career so it is nothing new.

But ultimately this comes down to his ability to win this election and not whether he is able to function as president. That is the conflict between Candidate Biden and President Biden. I think President Biden's ability to do his job effectively is making it difficult for Candidate Biden to see the major electability problems he has even when faced with a raving idiot like Trump.

The president is a figurehead, if he comes across as overly frail/declining that's more important to many voters than his level of understanding, or statesmanship or any of that. Trump makes gaffes as well, but he can deliver them with much more energy than Biden. He's no spring chicken, but the bar is Biden here.

Optics are very important.

Biden is doing exceptionally well for an 82 year old, but that doesn't cut it on the world stage, and with his mental acuity under scrutiny every gaff he makes is compounding the overall view that he's simply "too old" for another presidency.

He's dead in the water in the election. They will absolutely have to run somebody, anyone else.

Usually they shouldn't switch the incumbent out, but this situation is exceptional. People are worried about the "newness" factor but I think it would work well for the Dems especially as they are running against another incumbent.

Any Dems who think Biden has any chance are completely and utterly disconnected from US voters who will absolutely put a felon/rapist/grifter/bigot in over someone they perceive as frail.

That is a damning indictment of the current American electorate. But I agree with you in general. I am 60 / 40 on Biden leaving the race based on his electability, but if he does, the democrats absolutely have to pick a candidate as quickly as possible. They can't suffer through a bruising primary contest so close to the election.

Trump got 74 million votes on his last run. That's 74 million that wanted him as president.

Yet less than Biden's votes, by a considerable margin

I replied to post tounge and cheek with Biden's quotes pretty much showing he's what you say republicans are.

Did it really need to be censored by someone and deleted. Should I reply with his exact unmodified quotes or will that be deleted/censored as well.

I'd take Mitt Romney over either of the two running

Yeah, that picture will be iconic.

I was getting a little more confident that Biden/Harris may pull it out due to how toxic Trump is , but this might be a wrap unfortunately.

If it was a genuine assassination attempt, why not use bullets?