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Assassination attempt on Donald Trump - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭jackboy


    I don't agree. If the Democrats pick a new candidate they have a great chance of winning. There is still a long time until the vote, the bounce Trump will get will have dissipated by then. They need to pick someone at least mediocre though to beat Trump.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    America is an open air asylum. Should be ashamed of itself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,511 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    So is Cavan to be fair. But we don't put too much pass on them and it works out fine

    It's mental though to think the consequences that bullet could have had. Probably not to the same extent as Gavrilo Princip's, but there could end up be a lot of decisions made throughout the world over the next 4-5 years that might not have been made had it been over an inch more



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Is is confirmed Trump was shot by a pellet gun and the teenager responsible was subsequently killed by secret service?



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,869 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The polarisation of this incident here is so depressing but also so predictable.

    It's the left's fault! It's the right's fault! CNN are bad! It's a conspiracy! It's a false flag! I'm happy people died! I'm sad more people didn't die! Whatabout x? Whatabout y?

    Their system of 2 major parties who are obviously growing more and more apart is the cause of this polarisation. It's rubbish.

    Imagine if something like this happened in Ireland (I know it's hard to do). There isn't a chance that anything other than universal condemnation by all parties and supporters would happen.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭randomuser02125


    You do know he's a proven rapist, right? He hasn't been dehumanised half enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,374 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ah i think its over for the dems, trump will be elevated even further from this, his base will love this…



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    You’d have to say it seems to have been a staged event



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    An ar-15 so standard school shooter style of weapon. One other person is dead and another is in a serious condition.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,251 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    They cant pick a new candidate now after this, it's going to be Biden. Unless they do disclose a medical issue that precludes him from running which seems unlikely



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    great ratings to be fair.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,374 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …seriously whats wrong with people! no it wasnt staged, it was really real!



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,854 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Time for some perspective….

    First off, an assassination attempt on a political figure - REGARDLESS of what you may think of him, his politics, behaviour or history - is NEVER acceptable in a democracy or even just a civilised society. Some of the comments overnight on this thread are frankly an embarrassment and those posting such idiocy should take a long, hard look at themselves this morning.

    Secondly, despite all the vitriol and whining from some of the regulars posting on this thread and the others, Trump has a legitimate right (barring any further legal actions against him) to run again for office under the American political system. It's up to the American people to decide if he's fit for office, not some hyper-obsessed posters on a small Irish forum and certainly not some extremist with a gun.

    Thirdly, the most damaging thing that has occurred in America in the last decade is not the "rise of Trump", but the rise of this divisive, aggressive and polarised style of debate and politics - this simplistic "good/bad", "with us or against us", "if you support this, you must automatically support that" reasoning that has spread not only through that country but to the rest of the Western world thanks to the cancer that is much of social media, and which we here in Ireland have soaked up like a sponge at not only individual levels, but in media and politics here as well - the effects of which have been very evident and damaging on a multitude of key issues facing our own country.

    Fourthly, the most worrying aspect of the current situation in America is not which of the two old men being offered is the best choice (in my view NEITHER is fit for office incidentally), but the effect it's having on America itself. We are watching a country which has never really gotten a handle on its internal divisions and social problems slide into an abyss regardless of which "side" wins. I genuinely could see a situation in the coming years where the Union splits or a state of civil war erupts no matter which of them is ultimately elected (and Harris would be no better in preventing that either!)

    This is something which we in the West should be extremely concerned about, for we have have already seen how several of America's historical enemies are prepared and indeed moving to take advantage of the instability and paralysis caused by this internal conflict (eg: Putin). We in the West have a naivety, or perhaps more a conceit or arrogance, that everyone else wants to be like us - not so, in many cases they simply want what we have and are prepared to take actions that we are no longer able to decisively respond to (again, Putin). It doesn't have to involve soldiers or tanks either as we've seen with the use of again social media to poison the democratic process or sow dissent among domestic populations. It doesn't even have to be foreign actors doing these things either as we've seen even here in Ireland with the one-sided coverage and "far right" (or far left!) screeching on many key issues we face.

    A strong, politically united America is something we need to support our way of life and the ideals we've adopted, yet watching some of the regulars here be short of breaking out the popcorn over an assassination attempt on someone they simply don't like is not only ridiculous, it's INCREDIBLY short-sighted. This isn't reality TV or fantasy entertainment - it's the future of a country and perhaps the future of our own in some respects that hangs in the balance at this stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    The (amazing) photo of the bullet wizzing past Trump's head is a Photoshop then huh?

    Congratulations. The loony left is now the champion of conspiracy.

    Amazing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,869 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Explain how it's staged? Who would have had to have been in on it? Who would have had to agree to it? How do you stage it?

    Or is it easier just to throw out a conspiracy theory and move on?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Wow some people on here are really deranged. Lads you know you aren't American and don't live there. People don't get as worked up about things that happen in our own country or with our own politicians. None of us can impact who is the next US president, it's rather sad to get so rabid about something you have no say in. People don't get half as manic about things XI is doing in China and abroad, you know an actual undeniable dictator who's openly threatening to invade a democratic country. In fact I bet if you ask some on here who's worse they'd actually say Trump. That's how mental they are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Sure it was … I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭randomuser02125


    Both sides analysis does not stand up to scrutiny. The descent of American discourse is most definitely down to one side. Nothing in your post addresses that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,374 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    i ll give you a fiver for it….

    …seriously though!



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,512 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    “I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing
    sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin,”

    A supersonic bullet should have cracked rather than whizzed.

    But hearing the local noise before the shots would indicate supersonic.

    Just have to wait for the FBI to reveal more.

    No doubt there will be lots of speculation about the shooter. Hopefully this will lead to tighter gun control but I'd doubt it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,374 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    tighter gun control! come on now, that would only make sense!



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,251 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Some people here are American and/or live there though. Even you aren't, it still has an effect on the world. No one gets as worked up about Irish politics because it's inconsequential on the world stage, sorry to say. But an inordinate amount of Irish people get outraged about things that have nothing to do with them, I agree



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Republicans suddenly concerned about "rhetoric"…….



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    If this is a real video it's hard to make what from it, the security sniper would have had the shooter in his scope but waited for him to set up take a shot before acting?

    https://x.com/i/status/1812325846386102426



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    China is incredibly consequential for the world yet I don't see anyone in Ireland acting like a lunatic about it. Honestly the amount of energy and time some people put into the politics of the US is mad. Foreign policy issues I understand but why would anyone in Ireland care about US gun laws or who's on their supreme Court



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,105 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    One photo suggests a direct hit to the head just above his right ear but it seems the gun wasn't powerful enough and the gunman was too far away to do proper damage



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Being supersonic you hear the whizz before the sound of the crack gets to you.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    Trump turned his head literally just before the bullet hit. If he kept his head straight he’d be dead now.



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