Getting out of electric

Well I think it's more about who makes a song and dance about it. I know in my office there's very little interest in any car other than a few petrol heads.

One guy a know who went back from EV to ICE, has about 4 or 5 cars. He initially said it was range, but he was driving past high speed chargers which made no sense to me. He admitted he could have made it work, but just didn't want to. I think thats a more genuine reason.

EV drivers always assume others stop on these 2-3 hour drives. I do regular long drives of this duration and I either don’t stop or it’s for 2 or 3 mins to grab a coffee. Very rarely I would need to get diesel as I usually fill up on the way home the day before and I have close to 1000km range on a full tank.

And petrol/diesel drivers always discount the time taken to go to the filling station and fill up, just as you have there.

And you may not stop on these journeys, but most people travelling for business will be getting breakfast/lunch on the road and expensing it, and so will be stopping for 15mins+ regardless....

You're not doing a round trip from Dublin-Cork and not eating during a 6hr+ working day.

So at some point, a diesel driver leaves their car sitting there doing nothing while they're eating, just as I used to do. Now it charges while I eat.

I used to hate getting the car back from the other half late at night with the needle bouncing off red. Knowing I had little time in the morning to go out of my way to fill up. So either gamble in the morning, or go out and

But I know everyone has different habits and different annoyances. You could discover it in the morning.

I think his point was sometimes people are willing to pay extra for convenience as they see it. In this case extra cost of fuel to avoid charging.

For me paying more for an EV would be worth the convenience of the things I like about an EV. Range isn't a priority for me. But each to their own.

They might also not be paying for fuel out of their pocket, but a company is.

Plenty of free work chargers out there as well

Depends really. If the greens become kingmakers in Dail Eireann again the fuel duty will likely be doubled.

Depending on income levels 2k per year could be enough to sway some

I'm guessing there's more than 3 chargers between Dublin and Cork. Maybe the car had a fault.

i dont doubt that story…you could argue he didnt put enough effort into charging which is why he ended up stuck.. no getting away from the fact you have to plan your charges on the longer trips and be prepared for disappointment of chargers being full or not working

I think we can say with a high degree of certainty the greens won’t be kingmakers and won’t get to double the price of petrol.

Anyone buying a ev capable of replacing an ice (e.g not an aged leaf) can afford 2k of petrol.

I personally know of a person who forgot to charge their id3 and was late to collect their son from primary school. It could easily have been avoided of course, but the car got the road after that incident. A petrol car came in is place. It may have been an overreaction, but it’s another example of the perceived user unfriendliness of the technology.

best of luck to you

Not really. Unless you're easily offended.

It's probably the most well served road in the country for chargers. What he said isn't really possible, unless you're the same type of person who would run out of petrol on that drive. The story doesn't add up.

Edit: Plugshare shows 44 multi-charger locations along the route, and 26 single-unit locations. You'd have to be a complete idiot to have to end up abandoning your car.

If it were me with crippling range anxiety and didn't like charging or EVs.

I'd just buy a straight diesel. Not a hybrid.

Curious what EV agenda I'm meant to have when I say I'd buy a non hybrid diesel in that scenario.

I drive Dublin to little island in cork quite regularly. In an Audi etron. Never encountered a broken charger or unavailable chargers. Not once. Got the 4th charger in cashel once alright so a bit lucky.

I've only ever charged in cashel or fermoy. I'm sure there's other options.

The thing about Audi though, he might have had a 50 etron or a 35 Q4 etron, range isn't great on either of them and I could see 2 stops needed. They shouldn't really have sold either of those vehicles but they were cheaper alternatives to the 55 etron and 40 Q4 etron.

Mine is only 1 stop and it's on return leg unless I want to get fed on way down.