The decline of SF?

The government are the biggest leasers of private sector homes in the country built by the private sector. Any idiot can tell you that having a new housing development funded by a pension fund etc where 50 percent of it is being payed for with inflated rent prices by the local county council is having a massive effect on rent inflation. The market is being driven by the government and investment funds at present if you believe otherwise you are extremely naive or just a Fg/ff lackie. It's another Ponzi scheme. We will see who is right .....

The problems in Dublin have been compounded by the complete failure of Dublin City Council during the period from 2014 to 2019 when they failed to develop any social housing despite copious amounts of finance being available from the government. Dublin has been playing catch-up ever since.

There's little to no real support for anti immigration parties in Ireland. SF chasing that percentage of vote seems like a very poor tactic.

I see MLMCD has done some contrition, not listening to the grassroots and not fully engaged enough, she's told:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/sinn-fein-chiefs-disappointed-with-my-grassroots-engagement-admits-mcdonald/ar-BB1pWVC5

When you have a penchant for misquoting people you can make me say anything.

You are leaving out a crucial word 'far'.

I said I wouldn't vote for any party that is far right.

Jumped where exactly?

You decided they'd be a mudguard, which isn't a fact no matter how much you revere your own opinion.

The results from the locals and Europeans do give an indication of where the votes went. They seemed to go independent Ireland, Renua and then the lunatic far right parties. The first right lunatics hate all foreigners. If they chase after that vote, they'll actually be giving up on their true core left wing support and they will also isolate themselves form every other left wing party in Ireland. SF have always traditionally been pro asylum seekers and immigration. As I said, any lurch to the right and they really need to think what the consequences of that will be.

So you would be happy to vote for a party to the right of FG and FF on immigration, but that they wouldn't be far right?

Are you having a laugh?

Sinn Fein are going to pivot to the right, to an immigration policy that Farage would love. You will swallow it and continue to walk the party line, despite everything you have said on the subject.

The number of people who consider it a core issue when selecting who to vote for is tiny.

A left wing socialist party is never going to take an anti immigration stance.

It seems everyone has known this from day 1, apart from SF voters.

It will not solidify the vote amongst the 7 out of 10 householders who own their own home anyhow will it

Its probably only there to shore up budgetry figures for spending plans they have somewhere anyhow which wouldn't be needed in a coalition, never mind death duties increases finding their way into a programme for govrrnment anyway,basically political waffle best describes that ?

Sinn Fein are populist

Also: Sinn Fein are not populist.

Confused? Stay tuned for more.

Ah here

Nobody wants to pay more tax and cerrainly not death duties

The policies purpose would be a short lived hole plugger in the costing of a manifesto,never to see the statute books but would it alienate a lot of people,yes

I see Mary lou has upped the anti against her anti imigrant vote eating parasites by highlighting death threats from some of their followers as if she was the only one getting them

She made a point of saying they were trying to alienate SF's core vote and in doing so it has helped to be sticking the Ireland for the Irish crowd with the looney assasin label

This should win back a lot of supporters

The problem with being populist is that sooner or later you get found out. You can only swing so many times before you catch something fatal.

That is where SF are now.

No PSF are incompetent

something something "insert another party name" something something

broken record comes to mind

Your own point was a 'comparison' Clo.

You might like to think it wasn't but to call them incompetent while blithely ignoring actual incompetence by parties actually implementing policy, rubbishes the integrity and credibility of anything you have to say.

Nonsense.

MLMD supports a terrorist campaign that issued numerous death threats against politicians and carried them out. The targets ranged from a FG protestant politician to the UK's Mountbatten where they actually achieved their threat and to others such as various Taoisigh and Prime Ministers where they didn't.

MLMD's deputy leader believes that these death threats were necessary and MLMD hasn't demurred. I am sure that the person making the death threats against MLMD also believes his death threats are necessary as do his supporters.

We can therefore divide this discussion into two camps, those who believe death threats against politicians are wrong, full stop and those who nauseatingly and hypocritically consider some death threats against politicians to be ok. I stand with the former, it appears that yourself and MLMD stand with the latter.

Sickening really.
As I said, every politician on these islands stands behind the violence, threats and bloodshed they thought was necessary to achieve certain outcomes or aims.

You as usual want it everyway.

MLMD has not harmed or threatened anyone, and is fully signed up to democratic means. Same as the leaders of parties that commemorate and celebrate violence and bloodshed and 'terrorism' in this state, not to mention our neighbours.

MLMD is not one of your selective victims, this we know. Your hypocrisy is on show again.

Only certain politicians stand behind death threats to other politicians. MLMD has no problem with the death threats to Margaret Thatcher, she has no problem with the death sentence carried out on Billy Fox following his death threat. Along with the rest of her party, that puts her in a different category to normal politicians.

I am leaving it there, it is plain to see.