Assassination attempt on Donald Trump - threadbans in OP

Apparently that is common practice. (I don't know if that is true). That they can't open fire on a suspect until they open fire first.

It's hard to know truth from fiction, but I have heard it said he (the Secret Service guy who had a direct line of sight on the suspect before he shot) was waiting for instruction that didn't come…

How Trump wasn't evacuated in that time is a mystery that we will never know the answer to…

1 How did the young fella manage to evade security and find himself in the best possible position to strike Trump.

2 How come the Secret Service guy who obviously saw the suspect did not shoot first.

There is some amount of f##k ups to find ourselves in that situation, I'd imagine Trump gets multiple death threats on a daily basis…so it's not like he wasn't a security risk.

The head of the Secret Service should step down immediately, what was visible to the world is how incompetent the Secret Service were before and after the shooting. Her reputation should be in tatters at this point.

An American 20 year old who decides to try to gun down an ex-President isn't displaying normal human behaviour. I doubt it really matters which side, if any, of the political spectrum he might have belonged to. I'm of the "his dog told him to do it" line of thinking.

obviously goes without saying but never look a gift horse in the mouth. Just look at his fist in the air photo op within seconds of been shot at.

Let's be honest, that's your line of thinking. Not everyone's.

If the shooter was a dyed hair "member" of Antifa, the sh*t would have gone down and I am 100% certain there would have been murders of suspected "members" of Antifa, and riots on the street from both sides after it.

That's my line of thinking, and why I am very thankful it looks like he wasn't, but it does look like he was a Republican. I would not be surprised if he was out to martyr Trump.

Yeah, while everything we’ve heard so far has pretty much ruled out the idea of him being some kind of left wing / democrat ideologue, it does fit the sadly all too familiar school shooter profile.

I don’t think they are generally driven by political differences with those in the school they shoot up, just mental cases wanting to go down in a burst of notoriety in a country that makes it all too easy to access the weapons that allow them to do so.

I heard Trump and his family pick their preferred secret service agents. Not sure if true.
Would also reckon he wouldn’t receive the same protection as a serving president.

by definition no of course not, POTUS has more layers of security than most of us will ever know, but the obvious ones not available to other details are The Beast etc and the White House itself is a total fortress, again protected by military hardware the public will hopefully never see the full scope of.

You misunderstand me, what saved Trump was the fact that he, as in Trump, moved his head which is why he was only grazed, the difference between life and death.

I gotta tell you, what you have outlined is the kind of amateur set up you'd expect from us, what I have witnessed first hand, is how thorough the Secret Service are, they seal all manholes within a 3km radius, every vantage point of the stage is in a controlled zone, which is why we haven't seen something like this in decades, are are hundreds of people who have a desire to kill the President…

What we all witnessed was shambolic.

If anyone was ever in doubt that the GOP wasn’t now a a trump cult just watch the RNC taking place now. Wow.

Trump moved his head gotcha.

But also the shooter was disturbed by the police officer and then turned to rapidly fire off shots at Trump.

How long was Trump speaking for?

Unclear why the shooter delayed so long as he was on the roof for minutes before firing the shots.

Now that he has had time to think about it it has to be playing on Trumps mind a bit how close he came to dying.

I know nothing about guns but some guy was being interviewed yesterday and he was saying the kid was using the wrong kind of gun for sniper work.

A bolt action precision rifle with scope would be the go to.

We won’t know much more until an investigation occurs. For all we know the hesitancy to fire on him is there was confusion about whether Crooks was a sniper on either the police or USSS security detail. It’s all pure speculation.

remember though that snipers are typically operating from much longer distances - this guy was 150 meters away from Trump or less, according to the interwebz, snipers typically operate between 300 to 600 meters, with exceptional shots taking place at beyond 800 meters, with fewer than 30 recorded kills beyond 1250 meters, the record holder being a Ukrainian sniper last year at 3,800 meters.

So yeah it might not be a snipers first choice but at this range - the photo speaks for itself, it was that close.

Article on bbc saying the alleged gunman was a notoriously bad shot - so much so he was refused entry to the school gun club because his shot taking was so erratic it was seen as dangerous.