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Assassination attempt on Donald Trump - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,686 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users Posts: 29,781 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    That was back in high school. More recently, he was a member of a local gun club / range. But havent heard any reports of his accuracy there.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    School gun club?

    In Britain they produced frutcakes in domestic science.

    What an insane country. Life is sacred before it is born, after that it's useful for target practice and drumming up customers for the death penalty.

    It has a lot in common with the UK. When I hear of the attraction for migrants, I cannot understand why. It must be truly dismal holes they hale from.

    The UK would vote in favour of the death penalty too if given a choice. Fortunately there are still a few grown ups in charge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,250 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The assault was being was sprayed with pepper spray, he wasnt physically injured in any way that could account for triggering the stroke. Could have been stress or something like that though I suppose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


     I have heard it said he (the Secret Service guy who had a direct line of sight on the suspect before he shot) was waiting for instruction that didn't come…

    2 How come the Secret Service guy who obviously saw the suspect did not shoot first.

    If he's monitoring the guy on the roof and sees him raising what looks like a weapon, surely at the point his 'rules of engagement' should be telling him to take the guy out? Are we in the extraordinary position of accusing American security services of not being trigger-happy enough?

    How Trump wasn't evacuated in that time is a mystery

    Yeah you'd think that'd be the top priority, even beyond neutralising the 'shooter'. Or maybe better in the circumstances get him down behind the podium as eventually happened…



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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,686 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    and you know what they say: practice never made perfect



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Hadn't we people on this thread earlier today ridiculing links being made between Trump and Nazi era Germany?

    A US Senator previously called Trump 'America's Hitler'.

    Trump just picked that Senator, JD Vance of Ohio, as his Presidential Campaign running mate.

    For all the people getting outraged at 'the LEFT' the last couple of days in particular for trying to assassinate Trump and for calling him a fascist, Know this. The person who tried to kill him was a Conservative and a Republican. And a Republican Senator has likened him to the benchmark of fascism ideology.

    You should all wake up. The US Right Wing has lost the run of itself this past 8 years, once again it is showing how correct Lindsey Graham was in his 2016 claim that 'If we select Donald Trump, he will destroy us, and we will deserve it.'

    It's 8 years in the making, but you look at the key stories of Trump's political career and the public discourse while he has been involved and its all the makings of an implosion almost entirely contained within the right of the political spectrum. JD Vance made those comments about Trump when he thought he was in the rear-view mirror, but then, Kevin McCarthy stopped the car and went back to pick him up when he visited him in Mar-A-Lago soon after he left office, and here we are. McCarthy, Halley, Pence and many more who demeaned themselves to earn favor with Trump have been cast aside to varying degrees.

    There's one thing I'm very sure of, the longer Trump stays on the scene, the worse it is going to get.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    It would have been near on a civil war, there would have been a serious upheaval in the country.

    Only the lunatics that are all in with the media narrative on Trump would have been celebrating, the rest of us woulda been bracing for chaos.

    There will need to be a serious review in how the media conducts itself, they are spinning narratives that are having real world implications, the level of hate they have drummed up for Trump, warranted or not is outright dangerous.(Comparing him to Hitler I mean ffs...)

    People that want to hate Trump will believing anything they can get there hands on narrative wise thats why so many on here parrot the rape thing ect, they don't need context they will doubt nothing he is guilty as soon as it's mentioned.. It's just dangerous so many zealots around now and you can see by this thread the Trump haters justifying murder it's insanity.

    People should be careful what they wish for, because they came very close yesterday to real violence and the anti Trump supporters woulda been first on the chopping block.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,781 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Trumps VP pick... Senator JD Vance is recorded as saying Trump is a future possible American Hitler.

    Just for those going around saying only a lunatic could compare Trump to Hitler...

    And this lunatic is a possible future President should Trump win and not complete his term.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    One would have to have a very low IQ to in all seriousness believe a comparison between Trump and Hitler.

    The left and media keep saying that over and over again, people start to believe it and it can be no surprise then when someone believes they are morally justified in attempting to kill him.

    Biden is constantly at it.

    They are and should be held responsible for the actions there words are calling for.

    Adolf Hitler murdered 12 million people just for context, Trump cannot be compared to him by any sane person and not only that it is factually incorrect.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,686 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ”we are… the party of … lower-education white people”

    Gotta wonder if they will believe the comparison between Trump and Hitler



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    What media?

    Fox? Newsmax? OAN? NY Post? NY Times? Washington Post?

    I posted earlier today, (you're new here so probably haven't seen it) but Trump is the most watched and heard President (of any country) in history. And that is entirely at his behest.

    We heard him call for violence on his opponents, against hecklers in the crowd at his rallies, by police against BLM protesters etc. We heard him try to strong arm election officials in to helping him out. We heard him telling his supporters they needed to fight to stop what was happening to the country on the day of the counting of electoral votes. We know through public record that he tried to use his office to target his opponent when speaking with the President of Ukraine. We know he likes to assault women, to cheat workers for him, to steal money donated as 'charity' to him and we know he likes to cheat on his wife and try to cover it up through using campaign funds.

    We know all this through his direct words, or public record of his words. Stop blaming the media for those of us who deplore him, it makes you look like an idiot with so much evidence to the contrary and supportive media in his favour.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    Utter nonsense there has been for years a media agenda against him and they are outrageous in there language they have been calling him Hitler for years or the orange Hitler.

    There language is a disgrace and they need to be held accountable if your saying this isnt the case your lying. The media has for years lead witch hunt after witch hunt against him.

    Regardless of his language he has been nearly shot due to the narrative spun by the media and people who hate him, by repeatedly saying it over and over they essentially gave moral justification for anyone impressionable to go ahead and take a shot and that's exactly what happened.

    The people online that spew hours on hate on threads and sites like this reinforce the narrative that's been spun aswell.

    Ironically enough in there attempt to kill him they have essentially won him the election, he now has the backing of Elon musk and the likes.

    So now they ll have there "Hitler" all thanks to there own stupidity and ridiculous narratives they spin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭omega man


    but his own VP choice previously said (before he gave up all his principles) that he “might be America’s hitler”. His words.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    His wrong aswell, using that language is insane anyone that doesn't condemn that or believes it is frankly a moron.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭omega man


    I agree but let’s call it out that it’s not all “lefty” rhetoric.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    No one, absolutely no one, in the media or in top level politics spoke more about justifying political violence.

    You're ire is aimed entirely in the wrong direction.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Question: Can people vote in both primaries? I assume you need to register as a party member to get a vote but then I see people saying they could vote in the primary of the wrong party.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    Well the left are the primary culprits of it for obvious reasons there own gain, they are certainly guilty of pushing it.

    Like there's a father dead because of this of rtheoric which lead to someone wanting to shoot Trump I mean people would want to stop and think, you can see it here on boards the levels of venom and hate that are spread without even a second thought or any context for alot of em.

    In this very thread you have people trying to justify the attempt essentially saying it was a good thing and deserved is insane and these are the people that support the left.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,781 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No one, except Trump and his stooges, incited a mob to to use violence against his political enemies by storming the Capitol building. The actions of a fascist demagogue happy to incite violence to achieve his political ends.

    Trump and his stooges openly joking about the political violence inflicted on the Pelosi family.

    But something something... the left.

    It was drivel the first time round on the thread, and with each rehash gets less convincing.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,251 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The comparisons between Hitler and Trump's rise are quite stark if one knows their history. Both men have found themselves at the head of an extremist movement. Both men have been groomed by established Conservative forces in an effort to corral and control them with a view to using their committed cult-like base, and both men have ended up shedding the efforts to control them and have, instead, found themselves controlling the political narrative of those established Conservative forces. Both men have also used incredibly inflammatory rhetoric on their rise to power, vowing to get "revenge" on their political opponents and both men have threatened minorities by calling them "vermin" and accusing them of poisoning the blood of a nation. Both men are responsible for inciting an attack on their country's democracy.

    And both men have now had assassination attempts carried out on them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    Joe Biden "It's time to put a bullseye on Trump"

    You aren't telling the truth and your changing the context, I'm talking about the constant spewing of hate from the left and media all the way up to this event.

    My ire is aimed squarely at the people that spew hate or believe they are entitled to.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,588 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It depends what one means by "Hitler" though. It could be a reference to a risk of the 1933-39 version (the 1939-45 version could surely only be replicated if the US was actually at war).



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    Sorry now if your genuinely trying to compare Trump to Hitler your part of the problem.

    The fact you believe there is genuine grounds for the comparison is concerning too.

    Hitler committed murder on an industrial scale 12 million people.

    There is no comparison full stop.

    There are lots of crazy people out there who will act on this sort of language as shown say enough and the useful idiots will repeat it and then act on it.

    And that's what happened, there's kids without a father today because of that rtheoric and that's the facts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Just 2 weeks ago. GOP Candidate in North Carolina.

    Here's a video for you to save you blaming the media.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,781 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Here is Trump, echoing the vile language of the Nazis and of Hitler, with talk of immigrants "poisoning the blood of our country… That's what they've done."

    No wonder his Vice President pick is recorded as comparing Trump to Hitler.

    Trump in the actions of a fascist demagogue, inciting an angry mob to storm the Capitol.

    No one has done more to whip up the hysteria against political enemies than Trump, using de-humanizing language.

    No one has done more to destroy civility in political discourse and replace it with hostility, abuse and contempt.

    Nothing to do with left wing media distorting what Trump says. This is the type of hate that Trump vomits, unfiltered.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,654 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Lol looking forward to JD's VP debate with Kamela. Good pick by Trump.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 glockna


    You cannot defend the media, and if you can't condemn the media and those that have parroted there rtheoric then you are too far gone.

    The media are certainly to blame and the lion's share of it too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 598 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    It all comes down to him being an unattractive young man who was probably bullied through school and had never experienced female companionship. In most countries that situation wouldn't result in violence but in USA with it's access to guns it is often a different story.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,251 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Hitler ended up killing millions. The point that's soared right over your head is about their rise to power and there's quite a bit of comparison.

    But, listen, don't even bother. There's no point in even trying to have a discussion with someone that will probably not be here tomorrow.



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