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House of the Dragon - GoT Prequel Series (non book reader)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    How could Aegon survive…… from that fall, no way.

    i presume the fire doesn't affect him, isn't that a targaryen thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Viserys dies from a molten gold crown. No, Targaryens are not immune to fire. Daenerys was an exception and tied to blood magic that one time.

    I've put it in a spoiler tag because its technically a GoT spoiler. Likely overkill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's so obvious from the camera work he is alive. This show wouldn't skip a chance to show a charred corpse unless it was for a same bat time, same bat channel moment.

    Also the dragon definitely survived so he must have initiated some sort of crash landing.

    "The dragon spun out, there were survivors"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Disagree with this. This show is quite similar to the earlier seasons of GoT in a lot of ways. I think it is much better than the last couple of seasons of GoT when they lost their way.

    Agree that is can be confusing to keep a handle on the names/timeline if you don't focus.

    They are also handling the dragon aspect really well. This isn't GoT where dragons have disappeared. This is the pomp of their time and how they are being used or not up until now is what adds to the dynamics of the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭thefa


    I think they just overdid the impact to up the suspense. Like Sunfyre came hurtling down and would have to be pillow like to absorb it as shown.

    I initially thought it was a bit of a trade with Rhaenys/Meleys for Aegon/Sunfyre but it’s interesting that the later two are still alive. Usually the characters in GOT that had near death experiences came back to have some impact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    But Dany is shown to be immune to fire before the blood magic intervention - she tends the dragon eggs beside the fire with no ill effects before that, but when Irri takes them off her, she gets burned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,562 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I presume he's dead and that will be shown in the next episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Thats a high tolerance for heat not immunity to fire. Her bath water in one of the earlier scenes is too hot for others.

    I could be wrong on Danny of course but at no other point in GoT is immunity to fire a thing for Targaryens (to the best of my knowledge).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭NeutralHandle


    I think I like it more than GoT now. I prefer the grimmer tone. GoT was more fun but also sometimes corny. The characters are less likeable, and none like Arya/Tyrion/Jon/Dany, but there are a lot of layered and interesting villains. The actors are less physically attractive, but all very good at acting, while they were a more of a mixed bunch in GoT in that regard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    I agree, I think the smaller scope lends itself better to tv than the huge world and multiple subplots in got



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,276 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Dany was always shown to have a high tolerance for heat but the "immunity to fire" thing was only really introduced when she walked into Drogo's funeral pyre. GRRM has been clear on it in interviews though: it was something unique to Danaerys, not an inherited Targaryen trait.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Good episode and you feel the season will really kick into gear now, the Daemon Harrenhall arc is quite boring, hopefully it will come to some sort of fruition sooner rather then later.

    Rhaenys and Meleys glance to each other before they both fall from the sky, what a brilliant shot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I think he is being poisoned slowly ? Hallucinations, funny lady doing the food .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭bren2001


    He willingly drank something from the strange lady. She said it would help with his dreams (or something to that effect). Not help him sleep.

    I don't think he is being poisoned. I think he's just drinking strange concoctions/magic potions willingly.

    I think he leaves Harenhall soon. His plan of bringing the lord's to him didn't work and he will have to go castle to castle to build an army.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Maybe he actually has a guilty conscience .

    First the dead boy and young Rhaenyra , then Laenor .

    I love it . Slow start but better every episode.

    Binged watch the first four this week and now am impatient for the next one .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's crazy that the streaming services haven't figured out how good the week wait is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭bren2001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Aemond is more of a psychopath .

    I used to like Evan Mitchell when he was Osferth in The Last Kingdom .

    His complete makeover from likeable young warrior to clever killer on HOTD is remarkable .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,625 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Game of Thrones trivia… in the BBC series World on Fire set in WWII, he plays Sean Bean's son.

    And yes Sean Bean does die in it!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭gipi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,625 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Ok so a lemon wedge is good for cleaning blood from a sword.

    Stay tuned for more pro tips from Ser Criston Cole

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭thefa


    Bit of a filler episode with a few unnecessary scenes but there was progress in some of the storylines and dealt with some of the consequences of the episode 4.

    I think the focus on Alicent’s rejection during the council scene was a bit lost on me. She’s witnessed enough to know how it works at this stage, particularly how the usurping of the thrown was already planned even before she mistook Visery’s death wish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I think she thought she was more of a player than she was and didn't realise how advanced Aomond's plans already were. She certainly thought she had Criston and Larys wrapped around her finger (or foot).

    It's good that they haven't forgotten about small folks politics like later GoT did. It was ridiculous that Kings Landing just let Cersei be queen and bankrupt the place with a war. They went for her son for far less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,386 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I didn't mind that we got a much slower episode this week after last week's episode, but man it felt like an incredibly long episode.

    Regarding Alicent, I don't think it was as much disappointment at being rejected as a potential ruler in Aegon's absence, but more fear for what will happen with Aemond in charge. She knows she can't control him, knows he was likely responsible in some way for what happened to Aegon, and knows he'll burn the place down to get what he wants.

    Also having meetings at a table in the middle of the Twins Crossing is just completely impractical. Whoever wins out of the Greens and Blacks need to order the Freys to stop that immediately.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It wasn't blood it was burn marks. Learned the same trick to restore old coins in school.

    It was always gonna be a show episode so I didn't mind. They go a bit far with symbols at times like having the table made out of a door and do the Corlys Velaryon ever get sick of everything he owns being boat themed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Charlo30


    Thank you. The Last Kingdom. I knew I recognised him from some other series but couldn't place him. And it was bugging the hell out of me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,625 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Thanks for the tip. And how well does it work on blood in your experience? Asking for a friend… :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    No need blood wipes off easy. Just give it a little samurai flick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Bit of a filler episode alright, the dragonseeds plot should progress along next episode you’d imagine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,276 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I think they actually answered this rather cleverly in what seemed like a throwaway line about some of the halls being almost impassable due to the amount of bat guano which is a well known hallucinogen.

    Daemon is, quite literally, going bat **** crazy in Harrenhal!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Ha very good!

    The others are probably immune to its effects



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Middle ground literally

    The twins are as weird as their descendants .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Tell your friend cold water and a small bit of soap !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,615 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    I've never seen someone able to convery such emotion with just their eyes, the way Olivia Cooke can with Alicent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Cold water for blood, always, but the salt-on-a-cut-lemon trick works wonders for cleaning copper cookware!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Every couple of months I have to email a team in work that the import daemon for a particular application is stuck and needs to be restarted. That's pretty much Matt Smith and his staging role at this point. I suppose the flash backs will get residuals for some of the actors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    Do the dragons just live in a big cave and come and go as they please? How does Syrax know when Rhaenyra wants to go somewhere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    They seem to have some sort of telepathy going on. I'm pretty sure it's said that they are kept locked up but do seem to be let out for some sort of a run from time to time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,840 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Dull, dull, dull

    Really struggling to command attention. None of the intrigue, none of the character (Ifans absence in recent eps has been a huge downer, however relevant to the story), weak and predictable writing

    Can't help but feel the shortened season with the hour+ episodes have hurt it, or at least explains some of the drawnout story threads. Whereas the first season grew legs in the second half, this has really struggled to get going



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭thefa


    I don’t think this season is struggling rather than just lacking much action in the last couple of episodes. When there’s a week gap between episodes, it seems like an age since something beside talking happened. While I agree that certain story arcs are drawn out, the story is being developed in a more satisfactory way that say the later season of Game of Thrones in my opinion.

    Your mentions of Lfans and Season 1 got me thinking though and I feel like there’s definitely a hole left with Paddy Considine gone (Harrenhal visions aside). Maybe some of the characters aren’t being maximised at the moment but I just remember a few iconic scenes he sold.

    I think the season will be judged on how strong it can finish. Expecting a couple of eventful episodes now to round out the season, purely based on how season 1 and many GOT seasons tended to finish up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    poor Ser Steffon Darklyn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Some parts of episode 7 were sooo slow, i had to whizz through those bits..

    we get another whiny kid… this series is full of sh!tty kids

    but we have 3 new dragons… nice one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Aomond showing again that he is a smart boy and not just some angry psycho.

    When Rhaenyra was questioning Adam on the beach I was just so desperate for him to say "girl you know it's true"

    And jesus I really wish her son would stop hulking around the place constantly pulling Blue Steel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭thefa


    Enjoyed the scene with Hugh claiming Vermithor. It unlocked Mines of Moria/Lord of the Rings memories with the balrog but a lot deadlier.

    Can’t help but feel there has to be a betrayal at some stage with one of the new dragon riders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,195 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Yea, was saying the same to herself. There's no way she can trust all three of them. My money is on Adam feeling pushed away by his father.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,386 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd put money on the second guy who got the smaller dragon; seems like a prick who'd be easily talked into switching sides.

    Not enough Rhys Ifans this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,195 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Yea he was my first choice but felt like was obvious and has been made into a reasonably likeable character. Although that could also make him the perfect candidate too I guess



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,292 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Felt very sorry for Vhagar at the end.

    Poor guy thought he was off to see his old buddies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Ok, we've got a big dragon who doesn't have a rider. We're going to send all of you potential dragon riders down into a kill space rather than doing it one at a time. It's a fun show but it's very dumb.



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