UEFA Euro 2024: Mod Note Added 2/7/24

So you didn't see most of his games.

The games you did see he played fantastic in but not as an attacking mid/no.10. He was all over the pitch working hard, defending and being an outlet deep in their own half and in midfield. The reason he was being subbed was because of the amount of work he did.

His games for England weren't great just like Foden, Saka and Kane. That's down to the clueless manager.

I'm not saying he should win the Ballon D'Or this year but he has to be a leading contender. I don't hear anybody mentioning Vini Junior either which surprises me.

Rodri should get it, Dani Carvajal should be a serious contender. I'm concerned that an attacker might get it because it's the norm.

If it's going to be a forward I think it'll be Lautaro Martinez. He was the runaway top scorer in serie A and was top scorer in the Copa America and he plays for the no.1 ranked international side in football.

Southgate has officially left his role as England manager.

Two Euro finals, a WC semi and quarter final and treated like absolute sh!t by sections of the English media and fanfase.

Palmer seems like he likes to do his own thing....could have rubbed Pep up the wrong way

potter is the favourite and likely successor

Yeah seems like he's been waiting for this, rejected at least a couple offers from other teams in the past year.

and to think we were worried about going into that game in September, without a manager 😛

Lee Carsley is also being mentioned. I wonder if the FA will look at how de la Fuente was in charge of the Spanish U21s for four years, and therefore, knew a lot of the current senior squad?

They're definitely good enough to win tournaments!

They have a few of the best players from the last 2 champions league winners and capable operators all over the pitch. They should have gone out in the round of 16 and that would have been disgraceful. No reason why Saka, Bellingham and Foden behind Kane should not have been able to work with the right tweaks. The Spanish players in the same positions have had nowhere near the impact at club level of those for the last season or so but lifted their game while England's players still were within themselves.

You're right in that Southgate has done a good job but that's more when he was playing with Lingard and the likes rather than what he has now.

Producing the 2023/24 Golden Shoe winner, La Liga POTY, and Premier League POTY and having a smattering of Manchester City players, Arsenal players, United players isn't good enough?

They were penalties away from winning Euro 2020. Would you give over with that nonsense. England are very much good enough to win a tournament.

They were a penalty shootout away 4 years ago (well 3…). They literally could not get any closer to winning but they'll never win until they change something? It makes no sense.

Greece won in 2004 with a much worse set of players. They've a better team than Portugal 2016 who didn't have Ronaldo for the majority of the final. You don't need the best team in the world to win a competition. Just a bit of luck when you've that squad.

Any team is only as good as it's weakest link. For every strong player England has a weak one, for every Saka there is a Trippier.

How could you expect to win with Pickford in goal, he's had an ok tournament but he's way down the list of tip keepers, and a big reason England play defensively and deep. Trippier, was an ok RB 2 or 3 years ago, he's fallen back and add to that was playing out of position. The alternative, Shaw.... not fit. On the other side, Walker badly exposed again as a defender by Spain. Rice a CB, an ok shield but just ok, and would be no need for him if the defence could stand on its own feet. Add in a clearly out of form Kane who couldn't be dropped......

This is an OK England side, but one with lots of weaknesses. Hype will get you so far, but time and time again they fall the first time they meet a decent team in a knock out game.

Let's see how many of the top EPL teams beat a path to Sir Gareth's door offering him a job, may have to wait until the sack race amongst the Relegation fodder gets going after Xmas.

There is none so blind as those who refuse to see

Of the tournaments he managed I'd only really see 2020 as the missed golden opportunity. In 2018 England exceeded expectations getting to a SF with a kind draw. Croatia the far more experienced and especially in Midfield technically gifted side. No chance they'd have beaten France either. 2022 they went out in a close match to France but wouldn't have beaten Argentina anyway imo. These Euros Spain are simply a class above England.

2020 was a great chance though, at home, had a dream start to the game and really should have pushed on. And still they could have won it in the shootout. That Italian team is probably one of the worst to win a major tournament too.

England were carrying multiple out of form players and were hamstrung by a tactically absent manager, yet still could have beaten Spain had a few things went their way so I don't know why people keep repeating that Spain were a class above England.

Even playing poorly England had every chance of winning that game, imagine if they actually had been on form.

Where did I mention the Euros? I'm talking about who you'd pick based on all they did in 2023/24.

Answer the question and honestly please.