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The 2024 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,917 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Cantwell is more of mediator/drawing out pulling up analysts depending on her humour. She played at County level back in the day, still plays junior for the craic, so at least she has a grá for the game.

    However, I can understand how she winds some viewers up because she can pull the rug from under someone all of a sudden if she thinks they are bluffing/or wants to play devils advocate. She was well able for Brolly when he was there!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Galway largely out played armagh that did minus comer. Gleeson coughed up a soft goal and Galway failed to kill the clock late on. Galway will take alot from their last 3 games against armagh but just have struggle to kill each of those games. The 2022 QF in normal time Galway dominated.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Cantwell is brutal. Last year when dublin won at the post match banquet she started yapping on to fitzmions and cluxton about Clifford etc, she should have been highlighting the achievement of the lads. She's a very poor presenter imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Would you bet on both Comer playing effectively for 70 minutes and Gleeson not fvkimg up sometime doting the final?

    Comer didn't seem to be moving 100% freely at the weekend and the final isn't that far away, and I always feel there is a mistake in Gleeson.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    One goal conceded in this year's championship, not bad at all Gleeson has grown in confidence over the last few seasons, kickouts flawless last day, one mistake near the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭MfMan


    It was a very scorable chance from Culhane, worth taking on. He slipped slightly as he was kicking which may have caused him to pull it a bit. Joyce apparently texted McGeeney later, saying they would meet again in the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    Comer doesn't need to be effective for 70mins, if he's effective for 10 he can bury you.

    Gleeson was a disaster under the high ball in the quarter final 2 years ago, he's cleaned that up significantly.

    You shouldn't let your hate for Galway influence the way you view games.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Wouldn't swap Gleeson for any other keep ....one mistake all season…and that mistake hasn't worked out too bad has it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭ratracer


    The safer bet was to run down the clock!
    Still, maybe the extra game will stand to us in the end!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Moloney has lost the plot if his Euros work is anything to go by. Absolutely chronic this year.

    Canning was unlistenable at the weekend. Marty is the pits.

    I'll be watching on BBC anyway if I'm at home.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,460 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The AI Final is a one-off. It really doesn't matter what happened before. It's all on the day now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Galway are also fighting not just for an All Ireland but against the Ulster plantation! So far in 2024 (hope I'm not wrong in any of these) Ulster has won every competition:

    Club Senior/Intermediate/Junior

    Hogan Cup

    Sigerson Cup

    Minor/U20

    League Champions

    Tailteann Cup winners

    Just Sam left. Surely this is cause for all other counties to jump on the Galway bandwagon and send your club tickets West!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭munster87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,460 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Yes he was all over the place in the Euros but he was actually good on Sunday for the final.

    I would have preferred George Hamilton for the Euro Final. Maloney would have been brilliant on commentary for Armagh-Kerry.

    Martys tiresome spiel nearly writes itself at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Couldn't understand why Kerry had him tracking back into his own half. Not like Armagh were going to leave him unmarked at the other end.

    I honestly think the hiding Dublin gave them in the league completely spooked them for the season and their ultra cautious tactics stemmed from that night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    McCambridge left Clifford and went in to score the Armagh goal, nobody from Kerry was really watching him when Clifford did not follow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Now hopefully Joanne actually pulls off/out of the boring pundits during the All Ireland 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    And was Clifford just left unmarked up the other end?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Absolutely not.

    Not Kerry > Dublin > Ulster is the general order of preference



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    George, who doesn't have many big games left in him should have done the final. He's iconic.

    Him and Houghton are so much better than Maloney and Whelan. Whelan is absolutely gash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭GBXI


    Galway have lost 14 finals in their time, including a 3-in-a-row and three in four years. If they lose against Armagh they'll have lost as many finals as Mayo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    No one said Galway haven't lost finals. They are the third most successful county with a chance to break into double figures if they win this one and put three between them and next in line on the roll of honour. They have won six All Irelands since Mayos last win. And two wins in 1998 and 2001 in the not so distant past so point remains Galway are well capable of winning a final when unfortunately for Mayo they're not.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭Dont Be at It


    Neutral here (if anything I'd be happy enough when Kerry get beaten) but the posts in here dismissing Clifford's quality are absolute drivel or driven by bias/agenda.

    The player is absolutely class. Every player has spells of poor form/bad games. When he's on form he's one of the best I've seen kick a ball. It's worth noting that this isn't a good Kerry team and he's dragging them deeper into the championship every year than they otherwise would have went.

    The argument reminds me a bit of the fools that try to play down Messi's ability because Ronaldo played for the team they support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,917 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I nearly always forget about BBC they always seem to have a very different "slant" on the Ulster teams than RTE. There was one time I switched over and it was like each channel were watching different games. BBC said it was the best match ever. RTE said the standard was poor.

    I have found myself watching matches on "RTE NEWS Now" Channel instead of RTE if I can. It is as Gaeilge. But the Irish is not that complicated.

    Pat Fluery does the commentary in the hurlung with some other fella. can't think of his name. Pat loves calling everything "dochreidte" (unbelievable). Dochreidte this, dochreidte that.

    The commentary is nothing if not enthusiastic and has the advantage of not being Marty/Ger Canning. I can't even think who do the football on RTE NEWS channel as gaeilge, but again I would find it preferable to Marty/Ger no matter who it is.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    And while I'm at it I miss the longer buildup to the final, it's all a bit rushed these days, also I'd like to see the minor (u17 these days) reinstated before the seniors, great to see the lads coming up and pick out lads for the future... Maybe it's nostalgia but I'm old enough to remember the handball finals on rte I think it was the night before, all-Ireland day for me brings back memories of my father goin to early mass to get the jobs done then when the buildup starts for the minors all the curtains were closed all the better to see the TV, the first one which we got was on hire in 1971 because my father's first cousin BJ was starting .. dinner was ate early and it was game on, simpler times



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,371 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Standard of goalkeeping in Roscommon must be fairly average when ye had to come to Galway for one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,460 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Looking forward to this final as it's hard to pick a winner which is great. Can make an argument for both Armagh and Galway. If i was having a bet i'd just shade it in Armagh's favour. Much depends on the start and if Armagh can stay in the hunt i believe they will again finish stronger, like they have done in a lot of games. They might just also have more scoring forwards. It is very close though.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭cosatron


    O' Niell and turbitt were the only 2 forwards to score from play again Kerry, whereas 4 for the starting six forwards scored from play for galway against a more disciplined and defensively sound donegal team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,917 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Kevin Moran's mother used to give him extra desert after his dinner, because he was playing in the final!.

    I think the logic for the minors not being on the same day of seniors is because Jarlath Burns thinks it is too unfair on the clubs, something along those lines

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Is it not because the minors are as young as 15/16 since the move to U17s and it might be too much pressure for them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭GBXI


    They are also well capable of losing them - which is my point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    It's unlikely we will see a return to minor pre all Ireland days. I used to thoroughly enjoy it on Irish before the main game via RTE. You'd be half shocked at the empty stadium at 1.15 but then it will be filling up nicely come 2.30 and you'd be getting excited for the main game. A shame it's gone. I feel all Ireland day has been lost in recent times, the offaly team of 1998 were barley acknowledged in 2023, a shame. Feel like we could market it much more with irish culture and give it a real occasion. I'm all on for the split season but I'd love the finals to be pushed back to August at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,460 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I'm talking about all of 2024 and not just the semi-final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭kala85


    Was there any plans announced for the pre match event this year



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,220 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Some here thought I had lost the plot when I said for me the dark horse in this championship was Armagh and they are still there. I was at the Galway Donegal game and while it is difficult to know if Walsh and Comer were not fully fit or if it was down to Ban Gallagher or McCole, but if Galway do not get much more from them against Armagh than one point from play, then I would see it being difficult for Galway to win.

    Donegal`s problems came from them having nobody to compete with Tierney who Glesson pinged with a lot of his kick outs and in the second half from Galway`s half back line. After Sunday Armagh are now well warned on that half back line and I don`t see them letting them run the way Donegal did.

    Normally with Galway being in the final two years ago I would give them an advantage with nerves early on, but this Armagh team will be fired to high heaven and will have a large number of supporters making a lot of noise which they thrive on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Yeah it wouldn't take much, five minutes or so, to actually show the jubilee presentation during the live broadcast. Far more interesting than some of the slow-mo promos they are fond of at the start of every segment. Or feckin Marty talking to randomers on Jones Road.

    As an aside, should Armagh prevail, McGeeney will enter an exclusive club of people who won the All-Ireland as a captain and a manager, having also won POTY in his career. To date, only Kevin Heffernan and Billy Morgan have done so.



  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Was really impressed with Donegal for 60 minutes last weekend. Galway coming out on top and getting stronger in the last 10 minutes I think gives them the edge for the final. Armagh hung in there v Kerry and took their chances when it came. Sign of a team that does not panic. Overall I think Galway by 4 points.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,917 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Other sports more tuned into PR/Marketing would make a big thing of the jubilee team. There would be programmes in the week leading up to it, interviews etc. A big do, loads of build up.

    Yet the GAA just have lads out on the pitch raising their hand to a less than half interested crowd (unless one of the teams happens to be playing the day, there might be more of a cheer then)

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Likewise for Padraic Joyce. Winning as Player/ Manager. Don't know if he was ever POTY though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭littlevillage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,447 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Maybe it was on the thread already? Sean Hurson from Tyrone is the ref for the final.

    https://www.gaa.ie/article/sean-hurson-to-referee-all-ireland-sfc-final-x2914



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    He's a decent ref but he is from tyrone.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Swamp_Cat


    Even as a complete GAA fanatic & Yank I don't see any value in NY being in the comp. Rather see more money/energy & maybe collaboration between the highest levels here & the GAA. Been playing/coaching 20 yrs & the improvement from a decade ago is huge. It was a low bar to be sure but if the level of progress continues or accelerates it won't be long before hurling is being played at much higher levels here. An only improve the game. We have nearly 350 million citizens so large pool to pull from if we can market the game correctly and NY/London is not the answer


    Julie catch a rabbit by its hare...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭Rosita


    To be honest you can't be all for the split season while also wanting All Ireland finals later in the year. They are mutually exclusive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Yes Handball finals used to be the night before the Hurling final, I think Senior Doubles was night before football and Senior singles the night before Hurling. Often you'd have the same counites in both, like lads from Tipp or Kilkenny playing the handball, and then same county in hurling final the next day; would be a great atmosphere in Croke Park old glass courts for these games.

    Mick Dunne in RTE was a great champion of the handball and put together the Top Ace competition, but its a long time since I've seen a live game on RTE, wouldnt say its happened for 30 years or more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    As usual TG4 show highlights in their GAA shows, but not many live games AFAIK. Handball is very much a minority sport, I don't know of it's a good sport that televises well, and to get coverage of it it would have to be forced onto broadcasters as part of an overall package, as say women's rugby is.

    Nostalgia ain't what it used to be as they say - while we all have memories of finals and routines with parents and grandparents, time moves on, harking back to old days does nobody any good. Kids of today will make their own memories, IF the split season is a success then the rythems of the year will evolve and change and they will become the norm.

    There are many media companies and commentators pushing this agenda of 'split season bad ' I believe for 2 reasons - to extend the county season from 5 months to 9 months (9 months work instead of 5) and it's hard work having to move about the country to cover games with the same old fogies covering every game.

    Let them get up off their holes, give some young lads and ladies the chance to cover the games, and have a short, sharp, intense championship of that's what works. We're still trying to cover every game with ej same tired Sunday Game format, with 3 ex players spoofing about what should have been done earlier instead of innovating and giving better, more streamlined games. It's the GAAs own fault, they tried to ride two horses bringing RTE into the GAAGO tent instead of going alone and designing a custom service for them and their members.

    We gotta move on - '' The thing about the old days, they the old days" as Slim Charles once said.



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