Getting out of electric

There's a bit of omg why are ye all talking about EVs in the EV forum going on.…don't get it myself.

Any idea what it cost him to hand back an EQS after a few weeks? Must have cost 130k or so to buy, was he even given 100k back on it?

He could have hired someone to plug it in for him.

Silly guy to do that, so wasteful

Oh dear. What are you going to do?

renting an e2008 next week so we will see if that persists.

Almost everyone that bought in 2023 is in the same boat but you probably wouldn’t have got the same money for your old Audi now compared to when you traded up.

I traded in an Audi after owning it for just over 2 months so got burned either way. That said, ICE second hand car values are very strong at the moment. If I had kept that Audi until now I'd be in a much better place to get a performance model polestar and likely be paying a lot less per month. If you've seen one on the road, 52k is a steal if you ask me. I know they are trying to shift them for the facelift model at the moment. Polestar Ireland really need to get the finger out now and start getting P3's and 4's on the road. Also the facelifted P2 is out over a year in the UK.

Never a more accurate comment.

You’re right. I think this put her off the car. When you just want a car to get around and don’t care so much about what it is, then the ID4 isn’t ideal. I don’t think she cares about the money-saving aspect. She just wants something she doesn’t have to think about when she drives outside of Leinster. Public chargers can be a bit of a nuisance, and I see a lot of people struggle with them. If you’re not on a plan, don’t have the apps installed, or don’t fully understand how to remove the ‘hose,’ they can be really annoying. What happens when your phone is dead? Not all chargers are just plug and play. It could be a lot simpler, and you shouldn’t require a plan to save money. Individuals like my wife who just want to plug in their car for a few minutes every once in a while should be able to walk up, plug the car in, tap their card, and off they go. When it’s done, they shouldn’t have to fiddle around with the app to end the charge and press every button inside and outside the car to remove the hose. I know all of this sounds ridiculous to many, but these are the reasons why long term VW owners are going back to Tiguans.

You're in the unique position of owning a Polestar which in my opinion has one of the best charging set ups of them all. Very simple to use, plug in, swipe the card, return and unlock from the car which stops the charge and also prevents others messing with it while you're away. No stupid location gubbins. At home, will charge to your schedule which you can change from the app if you so desire.

I only recently started using the ESB rapid chargers. I like them. I could be wrong but they appear to be better value than Ionity. I don't public charge very often but when I do pull up to an Ionity, I find myself arsing around with it.

They need to get rid of the apps and put a flat charge in place. Walk up, plug in, tap your card and off you go.

With Ionity I find myself using the map at times to zoom in on my location and select the charger. Ill admit I'm probably doing this wrong but it's not very obvious how to use some of these chargers when you don't use them regularly. I'd be pretty tech savvy too.

It seems to me that you signed up for a PCP payment plan without full understanding of what you were signing up for. That was quite a silly thing to do.

For your future reference. PCP works as follows

Let's take a Tesla Model 3 RWD which retails for a little under €39k on the road. The finance company will guarantee a value of about €11k in 48 months time so they want you to pay just the other €28 like so

• A deposit of €6k
• You borrow the remaining €22k and pay for it (with interest) over 48 months

Once the 48 months ends there is €11k left remaining on the car. You can either hand the keys over and walk away or pay off the outstanding €11k and keep the car.

I've simplified the figures somewhat but that's essentially what you are doing with a PCP.

All definitely need to have tap to charge.

Proprietary apps and subscriptions are a faff. Granted no different to fuel card or loyalty card like Tesco.