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WWE Raw Superthread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Would have liked to have seen Dakota get a spot in the MITB, just don't see the point in Zoey stark, really bland character



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,718 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Think there could be multiple run ins yet in MITB between Gable and the Wyatt's, Logan Paul/LA Knight and Drew/Punk. What they're doing a decent job of recently is not showing us so obviously the next direction they're taking, any of the 6 are legit winners really.

    The women's for me is more clear cut. Tiffy Time or Chelsea Green as winners or we (or I, in this case) riot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,055 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Same, I think Dakota vs. Bayley could be really good, if build well and Bayley needs a good feud



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,055 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Drew suspended

    https://x.com/WWE/status/1810006054500987208



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,198 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The Punk/Rollins/Drew triangle of hate is good stuff.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Loved this Raw.

    The Punk/Rollins promo is great and now that it's tangled between the three it could be fun. Honestly think if they play this well then the criticism of the MITB being 'wasted' won't feel valid. Also like the tweener dynamics between them. I think Priest cancelling the stipulation also adds to him being a noble champion. His run has been better than expected tbh.

    I enjoyed the Wyatt videos but was thinking they need to give us something more and feels like it's about to get there, which is for the best. Gable talking to the Creeds in the background again. I would hope the Alpha story isn't totally forgotten too.

    New faction is good for the womens division. Think with Sonya as the lead it could help Zoey and Shayna too.

    The Dom/Liv story is great. The spots in their tag match were gas. The JD catching the stretch was funny as well. Rhea returning was expected but felt big. They really made the best out of her being injured, intrigued to see what comes next. There was a video on twitter that made Liv look happy with the outcome, she definitely has a plan in place. Love it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,188 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So was that camera set up just for Bron's run? Should start calling it the "Breakker cam". Seeing him take the corner, I'm expecting him to slip one of these days.

    Seeing him and The Miz doing the AA and the five Knuckle Shuffle makes me wonder how Truth feels about his childhood hero retiring.

    I like how we actually heard the crowd's laugh at Jey's Yeet-out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,055 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    We have another "tour"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,055 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Sami Zayn to defend his Intercontinental Title against Ilja Dragunov tonight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,774 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Lol AEW ran an All In ad during RAW on BT



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭Ridley


    The sixth member of the Wyatts is the most disturbing of them all: love



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Excellent Raw again, there's so much going on it's awesome.

    The Dom/Liv/Rhea story is great. I feel like there's a lot of ways this can play out. It does feel like the Judgement Day (or at least in its current form) is on borrowed time cause I can see Dom turning on Rhea or Finn and JD siding with Liv. The custody of Dom match might still have a chance based on Rhea's last line lol. Jey getting involved now too.

    That Rowan promo was awesome, outside of Bray he's the emotional core of the group and him saying 'I'm just Rowan' was so sad. Thought their in-ring segment was good too and getting the Creeds to finally align with Gable works too. Wonder if we could get a six man at Summerslam.

    I think that segment should have actually main evented if Bron was going to get involved. Although this might build to a three way at Summerslam which would be good. Drew and Punk for an unsanctioned match? Card in general is shaping up nicely. Gunther/Damian was great too. Damian is definitely a face right now and Gunther's 'homeless is a choice' response made him seem a right arsehole.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Definitely feel Dom is turning on Rhea at Summerslam to complete the full villain character. He not as "dirty" as he once was so this should sort that Too soon for Liv to drop the title, maybe we get Dom v Rhea on the following PPV



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,718 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Yeah Rhea chasing the title for a few months seems the best option imo

    Even up to Mania possibly depending on how much they can eke out of the story



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,055 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I hope not Liv as champ until WM, while this storyline is grand, I can't wait for Rhea to eradicate her .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,188 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Seeing Liv and Rhea fighting over Dom is like an episode of Jerry Springer, especially with Dom's mullet and moustache. You're left wondering how 2 women that look like them are fighting over a guy that looks like that.

    Priest is getting great enjoyment from it.

    I can't see them doing a video for all the Wyatts. Especially Dexter since it would go on forever since he never shuts up.

    But at last they bring the Creeds and Gable together. Could work well. Ivy in there as well to counter Nikki?

    Funny that Maxxine still calls Otis "Otees"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,055 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is Carlito to TJD what Sami was to The Bloodline, his expressions are "cool" and funny



  • Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Officer999


    Bully Ray on the Busted Open Radio podcast;

    I’m like ‘Why would they be coming through Gorilla? They left people for dead in the Gorilla position. We thought that Chad Gable…people were saying they shot him in the head. Bodies dismembered. Lists of people that got hurt by the Wyatt Sicks…they didn’t destroy the locker rooms, they didn’t destroy the production truck, they didn’t destroy Triple H’s office, they didn’t destroy catering…they destroyed the Gorilla’s position…”


    I totally agree with him. I loved the Wyatt Sicks debut but the follow through hasn’t been quite there. Coming through Gorilla made no sense.

    I also mentioned it recently here but Nikki Cross and the others really need to stay off social media. She’s continuously posting on her Instagram. Like I know it’s 2024 but a little bit of kayfabe wouldn’t go amiss.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,718 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Yeah those small nuances do take you out of it. A lot to be said for the Undertaker approach, it's why his supernatural character survived the test of time as opposed to other gimmicks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Agreed.

    In general why I'm enjoying the VHS tapes and promos, they haven't exactly lived up to the murderous monsters they came off as in their debut. It almost feels like they're doing this backwards.

    It also kinda sidelined (or at least took focus away from) the Alpha Academy storyline and I think that was one o the best stories they had on Raw.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Agreed they probably should have done it the other way around ..VHS tapes and then destruction..just a bit odd that they destroyed wrestlers and then nothing after



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    How to you follow that beginning? It was so over the top they probably decided way to follow it up by cool things off and building it back up.

    They stripped it back to video, showed Howdy and Bo are one, started introducing the people behind the masks. No has actually appeared as himself without seeing Howdy since the mad into. They are building up to that again I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭Ridley


    I bolieve the idea the lingering threat of when they'll do something again knowing what they're capable of.

    I'm assuming they're introducing the Sicks one by one to allow them to have a match without having to be in a pig mask or whatever.

    Can't help feeling that all this should be being done to Strowman instead of Gable.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,718 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Yeah the Gable targeting doesn't really fit. And as was said a few posts ago, it's kinda robbed us of a big Gable/Otis pay off. Would be a much better fit with Strowman given the history. Also the fact that Strowman would be physically more dominant than any of the group (bar Rowan I suppose) so could handle two or possibly three taking him on.

    I get the feeling they're just not high on Braun anymore though, he's basically been a big ass jobber since coming to Raw.



  • Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭Petermc83


    regarding Strowman.. the run and spear that Bron Breakker does & the camera angle is fantastic.. but please stop Strowman from doing it also. I know he had the move first ( shoulder charge instead of the spear) but I feel if they both keep doing it, it lessens the impact.



  • Registered Users Posts: 645 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Good Raw on the whole.

    Bo using the Sister Abigail was great and got a big reaction, there's life in this story yet but they still need to speed things up a bit. The Nikki tape was nothing and means we'll have at least two more tapes of probably nothing before we get a match.

    Bron vs Sami again is good although I wonder what they will do to differentiate it from their match at CATC, right now it feels like they just wanted it to be a coronation at Summerslam, which is fine but feel like we need something more out of it. Also interesting that Sami and Jey pinned Balor and JD, wonder if Sami might drop the IC and chase the tag belts with Jey. Could also make sense to team them up if they might one day join a face Bloodline together.

    Gunther getting crazy heat and just leaning into it, the feud with Damian feels really charged out of nowhere and that was needed, gonna be a banger. Also Balor/Gunther next week is class, since we never got that NXT Takeover Dublin match.

    Punk/Drew confirmed with Seth as ref. Not sure it'll be the most satisfying finish as a result. Just hoping Punk doesn't get injured once again immediately.

    Liv/Rhea/Dom is surely gonna be Dom turning on Rhea. It seems obvious but I don't know, it feels like it's going that way.

    Lot of build for Summerslam on this one and didn't love it as much as recent Raws but still a lot of good progression.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,718 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'd say that Seth is there to take a few bumps Punk might not be able for yet. I was very disappointed in the finish to Bron/Dragunov, feels a bit meh there wouldn't be any shame in Dragunov taking the pin really. At least we're still getting something from the Gable/Otis split, wouldn't mind a match at SummerSlam tbh.

    Female shield are lame. Absolutely zero charisma in Stark or Baszler. Also I know Liv can't have it all her way but it seemed a bit odd that segment, especially with Livs terrible attempts at pretending to cry 🤣

    Gunther and Priest is going to be a banger mind you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Officer999


    Yep Dom definitely turning on Rhea. Real Eddie vibes with the Spanish.

    If he got heat before, it’s gonna be nuclear after he does that. The crowd absolutely adore Rhea.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Punk looks juiced to the gills, guessing he is no longer straight edge.

    Regards,

    P.



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