USA 2024 presidential election

I've said it before but Michelle Obama is basically a proxy for her husband in many people's eyes. Ideally they'd love to have him back in but since that's impossible then she's the next best thing for them.

• Never mind that she has absolutely no legislative or governing experience.
• Never mind that she has repeatedly indicated that she has no interest in running.
• Never mind that her husband has stated that she doesn't even like talking about politics

She can give a good speech and she has the right surname. That's close enough for them.

In a move unsurprising to anyone, Trump has essentially threatened Jay Powell, the chair of the Fed.

Hes warned him not to cut rates before the election, and that he might let him serve out his term "if he thought he was doing the right thing"

Who would you run? Or would you stick with Biden?

Granted I take your point in her not wanting to be in politics. There's always a chance she'd bite the bullet though if it means stopping Trump but yes it's unlikely.

As for no legislative experience. It didn't stop Trump. At this stage in the election its about finding a candidate who can beat him last minute. It's too late now to find a gem somewhere in the party and build a campaign for him when most of America won't know them. As I said earlier Biden doesn't even know what day it is and he's in the job. You're surrounded by advisors, a team, the democratic leadership, lobby's and corporations make all the decisions there. As a standard Dem centrist you're a product, a marketing item come election time. Not a serious politician. Whether you're Clinton, Obama, Biden etc all the policies are essentially the same.

No not at all. Though the republicans are even more off the rails than the Dem. Pretty much extremist. I don't see how it's relevant to my point though either

I singled out the democrats because I'm talking about their presidential nomination...but yeah it's common knowledge american policy is dictated by lobbies, the military and corporations on both sides or the aisle. Difference with republicans is they're even more beholden to corporations so much so they'll deny climate change etc. And Trump as a candidate is a solo mad dog who'll run with the GOPs demented Conservative agenda but also do and say what he feels like crossing his warped mind on any particular day or moment. And what will also benefit him no matter what.

I think unfortunately the only "resolving" of Gaza he'll do is speed up the process of Genocide there and hand Israel the keys to it to turn it into Israels new coastal resort.

I agree with you about Biden having no chance but I don't think Kamala would fare much better either. And the limited polls we have now, whilst they might change actually have her worse than Biden.

The problem with America is so many People there are politically illiterate and ignorant on candidates,.most won't know even the high profile Senators and Goveners off the Dems. None are particularly strong and 4 months is too short a time to build up their name and popularity.

The sad truth is its rarely about policy either. Its won on force of personality or charisma.. Obama, Clinton, Reagan etc . whatever Trump done he caught lightening in a bottle. The dems are devoid of personality and charisma right now.

I fear its a no hoper situation at this stage.

I'd say Biden and his team did the maths and projected that what they may lose in young voters through Gaza in particular, they may gain in Conservatives who are on the edge of MAGA land because they are see Trump for what he is but are also long term Pro-Israel supporters.

And you're right there's very little to generate optimism for younger people. Biden did do some in terms of Debt relief but housing, general prosperity, concern as to the climate issue etc are all significant weights that young people have to carry more and more these days, and he did not do enough there.

The fact that Trump will likely make things worse rather than better with respect to these things isn't really a strong enough motivator to come out and vote. I'm expecting a significant drop in turn out this time versus 2020.

The abortion thing may motivate women but a lot of them may feel they already gave Biden a chance in that respect and look at what happened.

Schiff coming out was a big story IMO. Schiff isn't a Dem heavyweight, but zero chance he did that without the permission of Pelosi. It was similar to last week with Clooney who is besties with Obama.

A lot of powerful people in the party want him gone and are moving against him.

Next few people who will call for him to drop out will have to be a bigger name than Schiff which makes it all the more interesting.

If you were go write a soap opera about the US election, you couldn't make it more off the wall than it is in reality 😁

I always have to wonder - these politicians like Nikki Haley who Trump belittled and personally insulted during the primary season - does it eat at them that they must then go the RNC and pledge fealty to that same man with a whole hearted endorsement? Not only that, but because the base is so in thrall to Trump, she must know that she can never be more than an underling and sycophant.

Ted Cruz may grow a beard, but when he looks in the bathroom mirror, does he see a man? I cannot imagine he does.

And the system is perfectly self sustaining. Because all these acolytes must take abuse from Trump as and when they challenge his position, and they take it, they lose respect, which cements their places in the hierarchy of the party as nothing more than balls for Trump to bounce.

"Sad".

So two thirds of democrats polled say Biden should step step aside. Schumer Pelosi and Jeffreys arguably the three most powerful people in the party have told Biden directly he has to step aside too. If he doesn't him and his team really are selfish and are making a major historical error. I can probably forgive Biden more since he's possibly being encouraged by his team and only shown certain polls not the reality on the ground.

Not to mention that a presidential candidate stepping aside at this point is exactly the kind of seismic event that will create it's own drama and newscycles, stealing attention from Trump (which is what he thrives on) and providing extraordinary energy for the Dems to ride on

It's a no-brainer.

Yeah there's a "fresh" factor to it which could really play well.

I'm not remotely knowledgeable as yourself on US politics, but it's the same common denominator, a campaign needs energy