Shannon Water for Dublin?

Very good copy and pasting.

Call it what you want, the fact remains that Ireland's resources are for the nation, not selfishly kept in regions.

as noted above, the plan would supply water to much of Leinster and Munster, not just Dublin

You're still not getting it. It doesn't matter where Gaspode is from. Dublin doesn't have that localism attitude that you have. People from all over the country (and the world) live in Dublin and are welcomed to Dublin. My neighbours are a mix of Dubs, non dubs and non Irish. I'm sure people from where you live have moved on to have very successful lives in Dublin. Dublin is the cultural epicentre of the country with sub cultures and has had many many different influences throughout the years.

You're average Dublin dweller doesn't use terms like blow-ins and your attitude on this thread isn't normal for the Dublin City forum. If you look at other threads it's a helpful, welcoming place where people ask for advice and people give advice.

You've been told this numerous times in the kings English, the only language you understand. The Shannon Water project isn't just for Dublin and isn't just for Dubliners in Dublin. It's a nationwide project.

Clearly you don't understand it as much as you understand any other language. You're geography is as impressive as your knowledge of Ireland if you think Munster is a Dublin suburb!

If there was plenty of water in the Dublin area we wouldn't be using our Shannon Water! We're already using the Liffey and there's not enough from the Tolka or the Dodder, their simply to small. The engineers and experts have done the work and the only option is the Shannon. Dublin is one of the driest regions in the country. From what I can gather now, parts of Dublin have the least leaks in Ireland so… The Shannon has been decided on.

There will undoubtedly be compensation for landowners.

I think there's a lot more information needed here, if the maximum amount that will be extracted is 2% of the flow I'd question why it needs to be so far South.

It seems the 2% figure is based on either the average or max flow of the Shannon, meaning that there's a real worry that in times of minimal flow, or even drought like we had in 2018, that Dublin would be prioritised over Limerick, Clare and Kerry

I'd like to see a cost comparison made between this and a desalination plant that could be built in Dublin. I suspect the pipeline would not be seen as the best value project

Massive ongoing energy input needed for desalinisation, which can be put to far better use elsewhere. We have plenty of fresh water on the island, we're not one of the Canary Islands or something. It's a very simple matter to pipe it where it's needed.

Dublin is one of the driest regions in the country, it is the driest

Thats like saying the gobi desert is one of the wettest deserts in the world

Its still over supplied with water

The issue is the creation of clean drinking water when consumption goes up

Desalination is a complete non-runner, because a) it sucks up huge amounts of energy at a time when we're already exceeding our carbon limits, b) all the desalinated water we need is literally falling from the sky, and c) it's not really suitable for drinking.

Taking 2% of the Shannon's flow will be imperceptible on the ground. You would assume that they'll take more in the winter, less in the summer, more when the river levels are high, less when they're low.

Building a pipeline from the Shannon to Kildare is not a trivial job, if there was an easier or better solution, you can bet Irish Water would be doing it.

I think most parts of the country are running at over 40% losses. The conclusion by some poster here that IW would use the best solution, is quite funny.

There is plenty of water, how did you come up with this

It's not like the Colorado River and lake Meade

We have never come anywhere near running out if water reserves

The only issue is converting water to clean water

This is why you get issues when the weather gets cold the sameas when it gets warm

It makes no sense

Spend the money on fixing the leaks like any sensible utility does

As others have said there's no history of Irish state bodies doing what is sensible

Plenty of infrastructure projects come in on time and on budget, but they don't get any attention because it's not something people can get angry about. Either way, whatever the solution is, it is a big undertaking so the same arguments apply. Whatever we do, it's going to take time, money and effort, we might as well take the best option.

You could fix every leak in the country tomorrow and you still have the same underlying problem of 40% of the country relying on one small river. It has to be addressed somehow.

Most road projects do now. It started when a Turkish co won the tender for the Ballincollig by pass. That came in before time and under budget. The children's hospital is a sore lesson learned as to how we processed tenders. The lowest price tender always gave a lot of grief.

There has to be an objective analysis, using all options. I have no issue with this project if it is justified.

But if it's only due to take 2% of the flow that's surely a non-issue