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General Premier League Thread 2024-25

  • 10-07-2024 09:01AM
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    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    New Thread to continue discussion for General Premier League. Old thread closed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Villa qualified for CL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,847 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    anyone know what this is about - was it a temporary thing to pass the fit and proper persons test?

    Newcastle co-owners Amanda Staveley and Mehrdad Ghodoussi are to leave the club, confirmed.

    Their share will be sold after three years at the club, as part of the plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,589 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Sounds like there is some internal trouble with Chelsea's playing squad.

    Enzo Fernandez filmed himself and some other Argentinian players singing some derogatory (racist) chants towards Mbappe and other French players.

    Some French players at Chelsea have taken offence to this and have said so publicly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    If your to believe the online rumours it was Boris Jonson who leaned on the PL to let his Saudi pals buy into Newcastle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭jacool


    Who does Fernandez think he is fooling with this comment ""I stand against discrimination in all forms and apologise for getting caught up in the euphoria of our Copa America celebrations. That video, that moment, those words, do not reflect my beliefs or my character. I am truly sorry." ?

    I'd like to see the first training session where he is up against Disasi and Fofana. I know what I would do. More than FIFA will anyway, I'm guessing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,921 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Footballers really are thick as sh1te.

    Singing something you know will get you in trouble, and is offensive to your club teammates? go ahead mate. Same as Rodri and the Gibraltar stuff, he knows he'll be back in Manchester in a few weeks right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Looks like Utd getting Yoro. Not sure it’ll be good for them this year, might pay off in a year or 2, but it’s a big chunk of their budget on a player who you’d think, at 18, won’t be at the required level for a year or 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    They really are. It's bad enough if some member of the public filming them in private but they put it up online themselves. What a shitshow for Maresca to walk into, poor bastard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,978 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    That Argentina group seems to be a problem. Didn't LoCelso make derogatory remarks about Koreans that he had to apologise to Son for? It seemed like it was just a case of LoCelso being a bit thick and harmless but now another racism problem from the same group seems very dodgy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,558 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    It wasn't even some song that was borderline, where upon reflection it could be seen as problematic — it was just straight up super racist. Insane thing to 1) be singing, and 2) be singing so joyously while live streaming yourself, and 3) be ring-leading when it's so directly about so many of your own clubmates who you're literally right about to go join up with.

    As Fofana posted after; "Le football en 2024: racisme decomplexe," ("Football in 2024: uninhibited racism")



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,978 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    At least Enzo isn't on a comically long term deal that would complicate trying to get rid.........oh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,565 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    not quite the same thing, I don't imagine Phil Foden and Kyle Walker give much of a damn about Gibraltar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Chelsea should try and get rid now. He’s been underwhelming at best. They overpaid for him, they’ll should accept that. And take the best offer they can get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭ronjo


    Yeah, I wish it would be a problem for them but no chance……. do even 1% of UK give a stuff about Gibraltar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭Deise Vu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Fair play to the City negotiators for getting Savio on such a great deal.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,847 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    dont forget using troyes as the middleman to skirt related club rules playing in same european comp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Lauras Law


    Alexis MacAllister has released the following statement about the Enzo racist video.

    "You have to be careful with what you say or do, especially in Europe where they are much more sensitive than here. The reality is that we are not a racist country; we are not used to talking about racism so much.

    "Yes, it's a very important topic, obviously. Enzo has already apologized and explained what happened. I don't think there's much more to say. We know Enzo, we know he would never do it with bad intentions, he's not that guy, he's not racist.

    "It's just a chant that got stuck and is more of a mocking tone than anything else. But, as I said, you have to be very careful.

    "I think the most important thing is that Enzo came out, gave the corresponding apologies, and that, in the end, should be valued."

    The funny thing is, MacAllister is defending Enzo saying that we are just much more sensitive in Europe, yet he kicked up a fuss previously with his Argentinian teammates because they were calling him "Ginger".

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭doc_17


    MacCallister should stay out of it. His statement reall doesn’t help with anything, he even tries to make it seem that the problem is overly sensitive Europeans.



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    It wasn't even a slightly out of touch racist moment, it was a full on racist chant that specifically targets French players with African roots. That's numerous players in Chelsea's starting 11…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I'm a bit lost on this one. When and why did Argentina start singing this song? It's not as if they've a massive rivalry going back over the years.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,341 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Echos of the support that Suarez got from his teammates when he used a blatantly racist term over and over again against Patrice Evra (incidentally another French player with African origins). His defence was that it is acceptable in South America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,804 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    The song originated in Qatar in the run-up to the final, it was a fan-created song. It clearly is an objectionable song, but I think we all know that not all fan songs are acceptable whether it's 'Build a bonfire and put the scousers on the top', '10 German Bombers' or even Ireland fans singing 'They're dirty, they're greasy, we're going to beat them easy, Italy' back in the 1990s.

    The French/Argentinian rivalry appears to have started with that Qatar final (although obviously not the first time they've met). It's unfortunate really. This was a candidate for the greatest game ever and it would have have nice if both teams had been able to share a subsequent camaraderie about the magnificence of the occasion they'd shared. But sadly (and a lot of it appears down to Argentina, Emilio Martinez in particular) the aftermath of that game seems to have been prolonged nastiness and bitterness. Therefore the song has stuck amongst Argentinian fans as France have become a source of hatred, almost on a level with Brazil.

    That's just some background for you. Obviously the players subsequently singing it has brought it to another level way beyond an objectionable fan-song.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,369 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Another buyer has pulled out of the Everton deal. This is very bad news for the club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,029 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    not just that they have pulled out - the reason for pulling out would be a worry too, would that also put off any other potential buyer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,369 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    You'd imagine it'll be getting harder to actually get someone in the door now and they could be in danger of going under.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    It centers around the £200m owed to 777 Partners who WILL go into administration and whose creditors will have to take a haircut - meaning Everton won't actually owe £200m. My guess is there is some disagreement between Moshiri and The Friedkin Group over how much that haircut will be and the consequent value of the club from that point onwards.

    Added to the fact that 777 are involved in numerous litigation cases in the US amid accusations of fraud, implying that the £200m Everton owe is part of the money which 777 allegedly gained fraudulently - it's particularly sensitive to an American investor to get mixed up in all of that mess. Possibly not so for an investor of any other nationality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    When an administrator is appointed his job will be to monetize all its assets, which includes collecting every single penny legally owed to 777. He won’t be offering haircuts to debtors.

    The people who have to take haircuts will be those who are owed money by 777 (as presumably 777 liabilities are well in excess of assets).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    The £200m is money owed by 777 to ACAP - It was money they borrowed from them in the first place



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