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Are you prepped?

  • 18-07-2024 5:55pm
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    The mention of Covid in the news this week reminded me how not so long ago we were all thrown into the deep end and given a taste of prepper life. I realised I've gathered a quantity of items (and skills) that would suffice in an emergency scenario if it were to happen again in the near future.

    I've changed some habits like how I shop and the kinds of items I purchase to ensure there's always long life items in the cupboard and have a semi decent pantry of things that will not only last on the shelf but developed skills to make even those boring kinds of foods tasty. Of course I learned how to make my own sourdough starter :) I tend to buy more items in bulk and have never run out of loo roll since.

    I started growing my own vegetables and learned how to garden over the last couple of years. I still have some veg seeds packs although maybe not the best freshness but like Matt Damon, if there's a spud in the cupboard I'd be able to farm a crop in any event. It took me three years to master tomatoes but it was worth it.

    I've acquired random items like a camping gas stove, with a couple of spare canisters. Oil lamps and sundries for lighting and plenty of jigsaws and books for keeping myself entertained. I became more frugal with energy use and reverted to buying solid fuel to subsidise central heating, having an open fire/stove provides more kinds of warmth and comfort than just heating.

    I still have a couple of 5l drums of bottled water that never got used and a stash of toiletries like hand soap and toothpaste that would last years if it came to it so I feel like I'm better prepared if the sh't hits the fan and there's a run on grocery items and being cooped up safely indoors for a period.

    (I've also acquired an axe and some dangerous looking gardening tools that could be used as defensive weapons, not that I'd probably be able to wield them with any great success but at least I have them)

    and of course, I got used to be away from family and loved ones and have adapted psychologically to the absence of close knit community.

    Would you fare better now knowing what you've already been through and are you ready if it happened again?



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    It was Covid lockdowns, not armageddon!

    I didn't need an axe, nor need to know to get a crop of potatoes from one in the cupboard, nor to grow my own veg, nor to have a lifetime supply of personal care items etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Mad Max eat your heart out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I’ve a credit card with a large limit.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I upskilled and developed a lot of new ways of doing things. I learned how to build stuff, I designed and engineered garden buildings in my downtime and built them by myself. It was a good way to keep myself occupied. It turned out that I loved gardening and it's become a passion since then although I don't garden vegetables now and just leave it to the flowers. (The ground is limited in it's nutrients too so having a break has been good for it)

    I adapted ways of occupying myself that didn't involve other people generally or modern technology, like cooking and baking and caught up on a lot of books that I'd put off for years. I find I don't mind my own company and prefer having time do enjoy my own interests.

    I'm a novid, I never got Covid but I remember how affected everyone else was by it. All the same it's nice to be able to look back and see how much you've gained from the experience.

    edit: being without any kind of social media apps was generally beneficial throughout that time and I haven't been affected by a lot of stuff that's going on in the world in comparison to most of my peers. I feel I've come out of it better psychologically.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If you do want to keep a store of stuff you need to constantly replace-and-use, that is buy new stuff and use up the old stuff before it goes out of date. Similarly for OTC medicines - and if you don't use them regularly; that becomes replace-and-bin.

    Long term storage of water in 5L bottles is not advisable; if they're particularly old they're already undrinkable. You need a sturdier product for long-term storage and even then, its not a great idea.

    The only odder thing I've done is make sure I have the LPG jets for my gas hob (its on natural gas now, but the jets swap over with a 7mm socket); plus a regulator to allow it to go on to a normal tank. I imagine obtaining those tanks in some crisis situation will still be impossible - but there is a potential scenario of a long term outage to natural gas supplies due to damage or parts shortages while Calor tanks are still available.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I know I'm pedantic but I have a list of items and their shelf life ie: https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/long-term-food-storage-staples-that-last-forever/

    Most tinned stuff is good for 5-10 years and dried food like chickpeas and rice is 10+ years Water Jugs apx 2 years but I used go through a six pack of 1.5l water bottles a week at one stage so it would get rotated on the regular.

    I'd have a fairly good idea of what's in store and generally buying bulk means I'd have a supply of at least two weeks minimum if there was a rush on getting stuff in.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You probably wouldn't meet me on a night out, I don't drink or smoke or take drugs so yeah, not someone for keeping you entertained I guess.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Are you prepping for another pandemic or world war 3? Way over the top. We managed just fine last time without resorting to extreme self sufficiency measures.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm not prepping, I was remembering and recognising how I have changed habits as a result of the pandemic. Yeah, we managed just fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I'm hoarding all the tin openers.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I had to split firewood 😅

    I remember going to screwfix and buying an axe, a dust mask and asking if they sold rat poison. (they don't just btw)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I have some news for you .

    These have been around for a little while now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    They're far from reliable. Still need to flip some cans over and open the base.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,338 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Covid was a piece of cake. Prepping for short term supply emergencies has become the new normal for where I now live on the California small town Pacific coast. Lightning storms and wild fires sometimes crash the old power grid, as do an occasional earthquake. Plus they have been running community tsunami test alarms that pose a dilemma: get out the surf board, or run for the hills? Ha!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭Trampas




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's a very large Moderator category you have there ☺️ but yeah, we have had it easy here in comparison and I'm glad for being in a relatively safe environment. I get why prepping is such a big deal stateside all the same and imagine things are gearing up everything considered. Hope you're keeping safe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,417 ✭✭✭Archeron




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,338 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom




  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,612 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Have you thought about moving to Switzerland? You'd be very normal over here! I used to think they were way OTT, but I was persuaded by my Swiss to follow the rules and even acquired a wind up radio! It was not until COVID that I appreciated the lesson they had learned from WW2 and the cold war etc… there was no panic buying etc because everyone knew we could had sufficient reserves to feed 8 million people for at least 6 months and that it was regularly audited and verified, so no worries there.

    The only thing I have done and only since the Russians started they war, is I have checked out the nuclear bunker we have been allocated to so I at least know where it is.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have given serious consideration to a wind up radio! I opted for old school instead of modern tech like I chose a really cool antique oil lamp instead of a torch with a battery bank and even though I've a gas burner, I love the idea of using an open fire or woodstoves for cooking and heating. Must order my swiss watch for keeping the time soon :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Tork


    I wonder have the people who stockpiled loo roll made their way through the backlog (ahem) yet?



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    They're probably permanently constipated from working their way through all the sliced pans filling their freezer since the beast from the east.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,581 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    OP if you think for a second that the people of Ireland would let the government tell them what to do again you're sadly mistaken. What a load of absolute nonsense for two years. People are far smarter now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    I’ve built a bunker below my apartment block just in case, and I still have my iodine tablets



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I've been prepping for the last 20 years. Learnt a lot in the time, particularly what keeps and what doesn't. Certainly not going to survive a nuclear attack but have a stock of food that will last at least a month and can easily do without power. House heated by wood, gas stove + wood burning range (oven). Water heated by wood burner. Loads of torches, petrol and paraffin lamps (not to be mixed up) and a small solar system (600W) for recharging batteries. Live by a river and have a water filter that will help out if water is cut off. The only thing we'd really miss would be the internet if the power goes but with starlink a UPS and a solar powered top up even that can be kept going.

    I can remember explaining to someone I worked for how to run their aga if the power went off. They didn't take any notice and spent a very miserable Christmas one year when the power was off for 2 days. One tiny bit of prepping would have at least kept their massive kitchen warm over Christmas and they'd have been able to cook Christmas dinner.

    As far as I'm concerned prepping is to keep you as comfortable as you can be when things go wrong and until "normality" is resumed. Its probably as much a hobby as anything.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭drury..




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,612 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Here is Switzerland it is mandatory that all buildings have a nuclear shelter, although many like the one in my house are currently not active as there is over capacity. We are allocated a place in a neighbouring bunker, which is fully stocked, regularly audited etc… so at least in theory we have the ability to survive a nuclear fall out….

    But what usually comes up in conversation here is would you want to? And around 50% of the people in the conversation will most likely admit that they have decided not to go to the bunkers if there is an attack…. of course it is hard to know if it comes down to the wire what they'll do but interesting none the less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭SVI40


    No harm in being prepared. Ignore the naysayers. They will be the first to go 😂.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I have a "Go bag". Years ago I saw a tv programme where a guy was saying everyone should have one. He pointed to the london floods that occurred in the 60's. The basic idea is to have a bag that has some toiletries, spare clothes, some snacks and copies of important documents etc. I've also added a powerbank to it and a few other little bits and pieces. It's not designed to help you survive Armageddon, it's for natural disasters where you might be displaced for a few days. And with climate change it's becoming more likely that we could be affected by something like that. Every year we see more reports of european countries that are hit with something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Maybe you should take booze and drugs up to take ur mind off things.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭thereiver


    If the power goes down for months it means there's a nuclear war. Most people won't survive

    There,ll be a shortage of food and fuel your local shop supermarket will be emptied in a few weeks the supply chain now depends on computer systems and the Internet shops depend on vans and trucks deliveries will stop it'll be like mad max only the fit and strong will survive even peppers have limited food supply's

    Most goods in shops are delivered from outside Ireland supply's will run out

    II think prepping is a waste of time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne




  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I'm prepped.

    I've a list of preppers and their addresses. My plan is to take their stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    But just be aware they might be prepared for that ;-)

    Good idea to cross any off your list any that are preparing for a Zombie apocalypse ;-)

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    A thousand preppers go through their lives and pass on inconsequentially, leaving nothing but a steel prefab basement and a lot of tins of crap food.

    And a lingering whiff of paranoia, of course.

    Its not the human way. If the worst happens, stand up and fight, or die trying. Either way, you won't be left in the enduring misery of dwindling bottled water, tinned mackerel, and sleepness, fitful nights.



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Everyone's got a plan till they got punched in the face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Did some prepping already today, took 50 out of an ATM, incase this worldwide IT glitch affects the Banks over the weekend, have 65 euro in my wallet now😁



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Getting my solar powered radio in the post tomorrow and my wind up iphone is on the way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    That makes a very good point. There are those here (it is after hours after all) that totally dismiss prepping but we all do it to one degree or another. Why have a spare tyre in your car? Why have a spare set of batteries for the kids toys. From this thread you'd think that anyone that had more than a spare toilet roll is some kind it prepping lunatic.

    If I lived in the center of Dublin in a block of flats I'd do far less prepping than I do but I live in a house that is a couple of hours walk from the nearest shop and is subject to flooding. We used to get regular power cuts (now our neighbors do, they are on a different ESB circuit 12 outages in 18 months) so we have good torches, lanterns and spare batteries, is that prepping or just common sense?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Common sense, live rurally myself and always have a few gallons of fresh petrol on hand for the generator



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,611 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    I started eating less fibre so won't need as much Jack's paper if there's a shortage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭jamieon


    You have been prepping for 20 years and will only be able to last a month for food?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But is practically self sufficient. Having a months supply of basic food stuff is more normal if you don't live in an urban area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I did say I'm not planning to survive a nuclear attack ;-) But I've found thats a sensible amount and allows for fairly easy rotation of items so none goes to waste. I didn't include whats in the freezers which could be spoilt, but one big cooking session would ad another week or more if included and doesn't include my wifes kitchen store of stuff which will add on at least another week. Then my son is also a bit of a prepper and it turns out he has his own supply (just for him) that would last him another month. We don't do a lot of veg gardening anymore but that could easily be ramped up and there are 20+ feathered egg laying critters running around the yard. We buy chicken and dog food in advance and always have between 1 to 3 months supply.

    I could go an buy 60kg of rice and claim I had 3 months supply of food but as I said I'm not planning for TEOTWAWKI I'm planning to iron out any bumps in the road we get without being inconvenienced too much. With covid we just didn't have to go out for 2 weeks and were perfectly comfortable.

    Edit> The month would be eating fairly normally notionally 2.5k cal a day. If there was a real TEOTWAWKI type of scenario anything stored would probably be eked out much more. Provided that is @artanevilla hasn't found me ;-)

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Even before Covid happened, I had a camping gas stove and cylinders, plus a stock of canned goods, dry goods like rice, power banks, candles, matches etc. Also some essential medicines like paracetomol and my prescription meds (as well as loo roll!)

    I think it was because during the last big snow event, (2018?) I couldn't get outside my front door, the snow was at least half way up the door, and my car was completely buried, and that was in Dublin. (I also have mobility issues just to make things more complicated).

    And though we luckily never lost power, we could have. But if we did, at least I had food for a couple of days and candles for light etc. So even if a serious weather event happened, I'd be okay for a while.



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