Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

He might be right, on reflection talking to a few people outside the county about Kerry's game and a few people saying that we just can't play that type of shite, 30 men in side in a square of ground not much bigger than some people's kitchens but my argument is that we had 3 of the countrys best long range shooters in D Clifford, Sean O Se and Tony Bronson why didn't they go for more scores from outside the 40, we got so tied up with the opposition negativeiy that we forgot about our own game and the talent at our disposal,

It would be a tragedy

After the Armagh game what are expectations in Kerry for 2025. Are Kerry coming back towards the pack? Is there a chance Cork could bridge the gap in Munster. John Cleary improved them alot this year. With Dublin in transition I think the next few years are very open.

I still think we've had the strongest panel in Ireland since 2021 but have only 1 AI to show for it in 4 years. Realistically we should've beaten Armagh by 5/6/7 points.

Cork are improving every year. The stronger they are, the better it is for us.

It's difficult to know where Dublin are. They started 9 players over 30 against Galway so definitely need a rebuild. I don't know much about their younger players. They haven't been great underage recently.

Ideally you'd want 6/7/8 teams who are all capable of beating each other and I think we have that now.

Kerry, Dublin, Mayo, Galway and 3 or 4 Ulster teams.

Looking at the present Kerry team I say only Clifford would definitely geton the noughties team.

After that Foley woukd be in with a shout at FB, would DOC be ahead of Kirby or Maher I am not sure. Paudie Clifford might squeeze in as a sub on the forwards. Graham O Sullivan is probably unlucky to be up against Marc and Thomas O Se for a spot.

This team lacks a few leaders and a good few of the players lack composure in tight situations. The team.is getting old fast and there is no rattle in there biscuit tin.

Tom O Sullivian would be up against the Tom O'Sullivian and threr is a reason he has 5 gongs.

Full forward line Gooch, Donoghy Donnacha Walsh. Half forwards Galvin, Declan O Sullivian, Darren O Sullivian. As well Bryan Sheahan and Mike Frank Russell are knocking about. Clifford squeezes in for Darren no more room at the inn.

MF is Dara O Se and A N Other. Bryan Sheahan played MF a couple times in his hey day he was a definite starter

HB's Thomas O Se, Seamus Moynihan, Aidan OMahoney,

FB line, Marc O Se, Micheal McCarthy, The Tom O Sullivian.

Goalie Diarmuid Murphy V Shane Ryan

Bar Clifford none if the rest are definitely starters. Maybe Foley when McCarthy and Moynihan were at tgmhe end of there careers but Aidan O'Mahoney was taking the FB position then

Graham O'Sullivian is unlucky he is up against the two O'Se's

The big difference between the noughties and the present team is the leaders it was oozing them. Moynihan, McCarthy, Thomas, Dara, Aidan, Declan, Donoghy were all natural leaders in a tight spot.

How many minors from the 5 in a row made it on the current senior team in the period 21-24. My own team Limerick pulled a good number from the successful u21 all ireland winning teams. When Jack goes would Tomas O Sé give up punditry to manage Kerry?. If Cork has any sense they would give him a role with minors/u20 ( if finished with Kerry u20).

I still think we should be going for 4 in a row this year.

'19 they were still young.

'20 I've erased from my memory.

'21 to '24 I think we'd the best panel in Ireland.

Maybe they're not as good as we think they are or else they seem to have bad luck. They seem to concede poxy goals a lot.

I thought the guy who asked if people thought Kerry "would come back to the pack" in 2025 was misguided about where the team stands until I read this.

There is nothing in Kerry's displays in the last few years to remotely imply that they should be going for 4 in a row. There is a far stronger argument that Dublin should be going for 10 in a row.

Lucky to have the one

Don't want to down this rabbit hole but Dublin's record over ten years was seven All Ireland titles, and two one-point defeats to Galway and Kerry and a semi-final defeat after extra time. As plausible and more than a Kerry four in a row. Like I said I don't want go get into this one as the suggestion of a Kerry four in a row was so absurd in the first place. Lots of good players on the Kerry panel but still a long way from one of these exceptional multiple All Ireland winning teams Kerry have been accustomed to producing every couple of decades.

The problem is that they aren't good enough and dont have the leadership to respond to setbacks like the concessions of those goals.

Kerry got a lucky goal themselves. They were still ahead of Armagh after the goal. If they were good enough, the game was still there to be won and plenty time to do it.

Same with the Dublin and Tyrone goals.

If you want to be an x in a row winner you have to be good enough to respond to set backs in a game against good teams.

If Kerry win 2 more All Irelands in this decade it would be a superb return for this team, although in 2020 I reckon more than 3 All Irelands would have been expected.

I agree

We really need to win a few AIs until Dublin rebuild again.

My hope is Clifford lifts the 40th AI.

Ah it is. 4 in a row is a long way from winning 1 All Ireland in 10 years.

You have to be a seriously good team to even win back to back and an exceptional team to do 3 or 4 in a row. This Kerry isn't either of those while being a very decent team and in the leading pack.