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Ireland Under-20 2024 Team

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  • #1952
    FtD v2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭FtD v2


    He changed that now to a "always offside" call on the penalty and yellow, when he called it for hands on the ruck at the time.

    After he blew that penalty he saw the replay and changed the call.



  • #1953
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401237#Comment_122401237

    I think both were true, but his perception was that the offside element escalated it to a cynical infringement.



  • #1954
    Heffo001
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    How has the TMO called that as a grounding…



  • #1955
    Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    Thats a stretch



  • #1956
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Pretty good half of rugby overall so far.

    Referee missing an awful lot of things. I don't even consider it he's letting them go. I think he is just missing them.

    Deserved leaders. Deserve more out of it.

    Up to Wards Yellow, NZ belly flopped on every ruck and Smyth was in a great position to poach on 3 separate occasions but told incorrectly to leave it. You need to let a poacher have a go if the oppo are sealing.

    Big name players having big name performances so far.



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  • #1957
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,232 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Very generous TMO decision.



  • #1958
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,512 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is it right that the TMO simply overrules the ref rather than showing him the footage, giving his opinion and letting him decide or is it a 2-1 decision with the AR agreeing with the TMO?

    No idea where that grounding occurred. Maybe time for a Dunphy-style marker on screen?



  • #1959
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Huge hit by Mullan again.

    Taking names this game.

    Superb performance so far



  • #1960
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Oh Smyth is in trouble here.

    He's calling his shoulder



  • #1961
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,512 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401216#Comment_122401216

    The absolute nonsense of rugby laws is if Murphy had gone into touch it's a 7-pointer and a yellow card instead of 5.

    Worst rule in the book.



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  • #1962
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    This could be red



  • #1963
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Think that’ll be upgraded to a red. Flipped him past the horizontal. Hope Smyth is ok.



  • #1964
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    All u19 tight 5 now?



  • #1965
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Think Ben O’Connor might have made a better effort there. Think he was close enough to grab a leg although momentum would probably have carried him over there regardless



  • #1966
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    2 very soft scores there, just missing first up tackles



  • #1967
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401363#Comment_122401363

    Yeah the conditions now have the players sliding all over the shop.

    He'd have slid from 5 out there regardless with his pace and momentum



  • #1968
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Yarr with 2 poor underthrows so far.



  • #1969
    Heffo001
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    Surprised that stays a yellow, looked to drive him into the ground for me.



  • #1970
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401383#Comment_122401383

    I thought there was an element of driving too.



  • #1971
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Ireland getting undone repeatedly with a pass before contact sending someone through a gap.



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  • #1972
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Yarr's throwing has been so poor



  • #1973
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Lads just falling apart this half, dire stuff.



  • #1974
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401383#Comment_122401383

    100%. Reminiscent of BOD vs Umaga in 2005. You’d have thought they’d have gotten that out of the game by now.



  • #1975
    johnh6767
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭johnh6767


    not enjoying this, last 24 points to NZ and they look like they’re only kicking off . Outclassed again sadly, needs a big moment to reverse momentum



  • #1976
    FtD v2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭FtD v2


    They're still showing plenty of heart IMO and still piling into hits, but just look a bit outmatched at this stage.

    Injuries have taken an absolutely huge toll on this young squad in their defence.



  • #1977
    JPCN1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    lucky not to see red there.



  • #1978
    FtD v2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭FtD v2


    Once again an Irish player lifted and dropped down on his head in a ruck (Max Flynn this time).

    WTAF is the referee and TMO looking at?!



  • #1979
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Poor defence from O: Connor there for that try. Made it very easy for the kiwi.



  • #1980
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Desperate half, nothing working bar some heroic defense



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  • #1981
    FtD v2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭FtD v2


    Great heart to finish with a try.

    Absolutely awful second half from Ireland, but scoreline flatters New Zealand too.

    There is still a lot of talent in this squad with a bright future.



  • #1982
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Lovely, all came from half break in midfield from Gavin



  • #1983
    FtD v2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭FtD v2


    Another cracking try (though I think we got away with a forward pass in the build up).

    Gavin absolutely superb again.



  • #1984
    johnh6767
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭johnh6767


    this French team haven’t turned up, they lost to NZ in the group stages, then gave them a proper going over to reach the final, and now look like an entirely different team. England deserved winners , consistent throughout the competition



  • #1985
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭Shehal


    I always felt the big difference between England and the rest, which is why they are the best side imo overall, is they have lowest drop off on any side. I do feel any of the 4 SF's could beat the other on their day but France today, NZL in the SF & Ireland in both tbh have had a really big drop off in their performance that you've just never seen from England, England even on an off day can still find a way to win even in the toughest of scenario's which is why they are deserved winners in my opinion.



  • #1986
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Thought Mullan and Smyth did great, team played well until Smyth went off, turned the game, not sure why Mullan didnt start against England.



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  • #1987
    FrannoFan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FrannoFan


    I don't want to be critical of young lads but it was a bit of a disappointing tournament overall. Think I thought we were closer to England based on 6 nations and sort of thought we would be better.

    Barely beat Georgia, well beaten by England, (no shame in that but just a big gap) pretty well beaten by NZ today.

    There will be a few pros out of this group no doubt. Think they were well coached which maybe makes some lads look better than they might be. (Which is a complement to all involved) But maybe you'd rather a few stand out stars in a less cohesive group. (Not that it's a choice!)



  • #1988
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭Shehal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402258#Comment_122402258

    I dont how you could watch this side and come to the conclusion they were "well coached" ?

    Their basic's throughout i.e Defence, set piece, receiving of kick offs etc. was incredibly poor, if that counts as "good coaching" then what counts as bad?



  • #1989
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Groups for next years competition

    England
    Australia
    South Africa
    Scotland


    France
    Argentina
    Wales
    Spain

    NZ
    Ireland
    Georgia
    Italy​



  • #1990
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Disappointed to lose. Poor performance. 4th place finish isn't bad, I guess.

    England worthy winners. Phenomenal pack and we'll coached.



  • #1991
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    It's fine to be critical. I thought the depth was lacking. Murphy moving on probably affected the coaching. For the tournament, I think the team was so so. Agree with Shehal, it's hard to say the coaching was good. There's a few decent prospects among the squad and it will be interesting to see them develop.

    Jackman said this year's squad was better than the last crop. I don't see it.



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  • #1992
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403608#Comment_122403608

    4th is very good especially if you compare it to majority of our previous performances at this level



  • #1993
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403632#Comment_122403632

    Wouldn't Take too much heed of jackman. ...

    It Is fine to be critical if you actually look at things rationally.

    Whatever way you look at things. In 14 tournaments this equalled our 3rd best result. We made semis when predominantly we have finished in 7th 8th or 9th



  • #1994
    ljsulster
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭ljsulster


    Ultimately injuries cost this squad imo,

    O’Connell

    Usanov

    Hopes

    Walker

    De Klerk

    5 lads who likely would’ve started this tournament missing either the whole thing or the knockout stages. Hard to come back from.



  • #1995
    ljsulster
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭ljsulster


    Anyway, on to next year

    My XV:

    Usanov

    Walker

    Mullan

    Corrigan

    Spicer

    Jackson*
    Angulo

    Murphy

    Logan

    Hicks

    Mangan

    O Leary Kareem

    Scott

    O Dwyer

    Lawler


    * If fit the best prospect I’ve seen come through Ulster for a long time,

    Better than Mcnabney, Ward and Mckillop



  • #1996
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403563#Comment_122403563

    What happened Portugal, thought they were the big improvers at under-age ?

    Scotland seamed to have improved big time in a short space, good to see Spain improving too.



  • #1997
    conquestscarer
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭conquestscarer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403671#Comment_122403671

    So hard to make predictions at this stage. For example this time last year Usanov was a backrower.



  • #1998
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    That's right. Even in down years there's been some good players that have come through.



  • #1999
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I'd think Evan Moynihan will be involved. Superb prospect.



  • #2000
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403674#Comment_122403674

    Nothing. They had 3 good years in trophy before covid close to qualifying for world championship, finishing in top 3 of world trophy and then haven't qualified for trophy since. You have to qualify from European u20 competition every year for trophy and they haven't been able to do that.



  • #2001
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403776#Comment_122403776

    YYeah And always a few guys from clubs who will very much be under radar compared to their school counterparts as far fewer here will have seen them play



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