Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP

Umm, blind hatred every time I see the man. Please try better….

Well, you were trying to insinuate that Trump is some kind of Hitler, that is blind hatred.

Yes, of course.

If you break the law, there's repercussions. Do you think he should be exempt from prosecution?

Psst he also said he was wrong!

No need to whisper like Joe….just sayin!!!

He only said he was wrong when he found out he could profit by doing so.

That doesn't mean he changed his mind. That means he is a craven liar.

Speaking of which, you said trump was changed by the "near assassination".

I am awaiting proof of this, but in the meantime, spotted someone else who said the same.

Comrade Carlson! Another out and out liar.

You are in esteemed company for sure.

Moi, insinuate that Trump is some kind of Hitler, never… That was something JD Vance stated about him.

The beauty of this debating chamber is that it can be extended ad infinitum by the admins, never running out of space unless the admins feel contributions are pointless.

I was myself, plenty of people change their minds.

As a poster pointed out, people go from Democrat to Republican quiet a bit, but very few go the other way.

He was the darling of Hollywood at the time, his book was being celebrated, a movie based on his book was in production around that time…as anyone in that world knows, if you even hint at being a conservative you get blacklisted.

It took a lot of courage to vocally change his view. That would have come at huge personal cost. But if you have read his book, or even watched the movie, you will know that he is an extraordinary guy, an extraordinary life and journey.

On the Special Prosecutor front, Hunter Bidens legal team have submitted applications to have the current charges against him dismissed on the basis of Judge Cannon's ruling that Special Counsel Smith was not properly legally appointed to the job as the SC over Bidens case. Bidens legal team are also using the same grounds to appeal his conviction of lying about his drug use when purchasing a fire-arm as another SC [David Weiss] was appointed using the authority Judge Cannon ruled as legally unconstitutional. SC Smith is appealing Judge Cannon's ruling. His legal team have also included Justice Clarence Thomas of the SCOTUS somewhere in their appeal.

Much the same as happened the last time I'd predict. I don't follow American politics that closely, but my memory is he governed pretty much as a mainstream republican and somehow didn't get round to doing a lot of the far-out populist stuff he promised on the campaign trail.

Andreally what else would you expect from a lazy man who cares little for the practicalities of government and as you say is all about looking after number one. He was never going to shake things up in any substantial way because that takes too much effort and brainpower…

You are crossing your wires there….we were talking about Vance.

He was the darling of Hollywood, they made a movie based on his life!!!!!

Conservatives have been complaining for years about being blacklisted in Hollywood, like Academia.

So you believe he didn't want to run the first time but he ran because someone insulted him at a dinner, and is only running this time to stay out of jail!! How does that make sense in your head?

So a person can't change his/her mind, he/she can only be a craven liar!! Wow, you lot demand loyalty don't you!!!

One could posit that that's two people who've had "Road to Damascus" conversions then in the past. As for Carlson, he doesn't seem to have gotten an improvement of his reputation with his comments in Australia and elsewhere.

Just because they have been complaining for years doesn't mean the complaints have any merit.

Amazing the way people equivocate on behalf of trump, in the guise of being an honest broker, but eventually when they argue enough, the reasons why reveal themselves. They let slip their own issues with immigration, racism or culture wars. Always seems to always be at the centre.

He is an absolute fraud. Spews lies at a rate of knots and Matt tries and fails miserably to correct him.

Reminds me of that other American George Hook used to have on. His views were absolutely outrageous.

I don't get it, are you suggesting Glenn Beck is behind the DEI idology that is being pushed across Government, Corporations, Media, Academia and Culture? Or are you suggesting that Glenn Beck is suggesting that George Soros is behind it…because it is definitely happening, we can all see that….

I agree with you it is a strect to compare DEI with Nazism.

But we do agree, that the Nazis did impose quotas cross corporations and pushed their ideology through academia, media and culture? We can agree on that surely? (My point being that the Nazis increased the size of Government and used media and culture to achieve that)

The centre of the issue is between the ears but for different reasons.

It's a big problem. And they are generating that electricity with windmills! Won't somebody please think of the poor whales being killed.

Ah, is that the fault of the American Educational system which Trump has strong "American Values" feelings about, a case of too much knowledge in his head swamping his mental ability to understand what he is reading and hearing?

He did go to the New York Military Academy, a boarding school, where he was captain of the baseball team. Incidentally, would his bone spur problem [which kept him out of serving in the US Military] not have been a disability for any member of a baseball team seeing as it is an athletic sport?

Well, none of need history lessons, we know the Nazis spent 10 years vilifying Jewish people through their control of media outlets, and sytematically stripping them of their rights, removing them from their earned positions in corporations, business, academia, media and culture…they then orchestrated an attack on Government buildings and blamed their political rivals which allowed them to tighten their control of the German Democracy, but of course, we all know that.

By the way, I don't believe that the Democrats, or the Republicans are Nazis, I simply believe that their political system has been corrupted by corporations for decades and needs a good clean gutting on both sides. Who knows, we might live to see an end to pointless wars that only cause death and destruction to ordinary people.

And for what it is worth, I also understand the view of people who think completely different to me.

And there you go, I can honestly appreciate why you hold that view of Trump, and don't think any less of you for it and you are right Trumps language especially the use of the term vermin is a disgrace, he played his own part in the assasination attempt last week in my view. Id much prefer that he was more polished, less erratic, less confrontational, the guy can't go two sentences without complimenting himself to the point where it's comical. But the US has 3 choices in November that may very well decide whether we see WW3 in the coming years and the only thing I am 100% sure of is that Biden is not the man who will see us avoid that war, the Americans know this better than any of us, and you can see what way they are going even if you dont want to admit it!!

Whereas you think I am all kids of stupid/mysodginst/racist/homophobe/anti vax/deplorable….almost like vermin, in fact I do recall the NYT publishing a picture of Republican Senators as rats. So lets not pretend only one side is behaving dangerously when it comes to language and rhetoric.

So just for clarity, are you suggesting that Trump is the leader to do the cleansing?

Ignoring the 'good people on both sides' argument.

Why do so many of Trumps ex-staff say he's unsuitable to be president?

Why do so many of Trumps ex-staff not support him this time around?

If you're looking to hire someone, don't you look for references?