Can we stop the “if you point out republicans are ahead”- you’re a sex offender posts please?

Trump is a rapist. This is a statement of fact established by a court of law. The threads have been full of bad faith arguments and weasel words trying to defend Trump on this. There is a large overlap with same posters jumping onto a poll with glee that shows Trump ahead. There have been vile comments directed at the victim too. Toxic.

Not everybody and not the OP but at some point yes you have to start asking why someone wants a rapist to win the election as it is obvious they do. Thats another bad faith argument... obvious Trump supporters claiming to be 'centrists' yet never posting unprompted criticism of him. Posters who should have been banned long ago for soap boxing and bad faith arguments - which is low level trolling. Then when eventually banned for trolling pop up on one of the other threads and repeat the same crap. I havent seen anybody banned for 'nothing'.

Below links show Trump echoing the language of Hitler. It is Trumps language that is extreme and echoes that of authoritarian dictators and it is reasonable to point this out.

Trumps own VP pick Vance is on record comparing Trump to Hitler.

There is also the fascist 2025 project in play by future Trump administration staff they will put into place if Trump wins. Trumps denials of knowledge of this are laughable and transparent. Trump already tried to steal one election, inciting a mob with violence to storm the Capitol. Another fascist action.

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213746885/trump-vermin-hitler-immigration-authoritarian-republican-primary

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/16/trump-immigrants-new-hampshire-rally

You are assuming all the posters on the thread are rational interested in sincere discussion. When did you start reading the thread? Because it has never been true.

And it is hard to have a sincere discussion about the candidates, whether Biden is best candidate to beat Trump in the environment I describe below. Are you discussing with someone who really wants Trump to win? Someone pretending to be centrist but just here to bash Democrats.

The simple question is do you want Trump to win versus an other Democrat or not? If you dont, why not?

Is Biden the best choice for the Dems ... because you want to see Trump defeated? Why does the question matter to you?

And are you prepared to answer questions which are entirely relevant?

Do you accept the valid legal basis by which posters call Trump a rapist?

Are you ok with a rapist being President over AN other Democrat?

Can you understand why a poster who is ok with a rapist in the White House might be called a rapist sympathizer or apologist?

So no merely pointing to the polls doesnt make you a Trump supporter ok with rape.... it is if you do so with glee and deploy weasel words to defend Trump of rape.

And for a long time the majority of posts doing that were. Dodging questions about Trumps conduct, pretending not to be Trump supporters. And it was a form of trolling via bad faith argument and soap boxing.

We don't always know the outcome of a reported post do we, but I can see a list of threadbanned posters, and judging from posts I have seen on the thread and elsewhere no surprise to see their name in the list.

A couple of posters not banned but who if I was the one wielding the 'ban hammer' would be banned for persistent soap boxing. If you will see other posts I have made on feedback about CA in general I am in favour of a stronger approach from mods to low level trolling.

In the previous post several specific and direct questions about Trump's conduct and the rationale behind your questions. You didn't answer them.

Now I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that your questions are sincere and from the perspective of "how best can the Democrats respond."

However, 90% of the time on the forum when we see someone "just asking questions" and dodging such questions, it means they are a closet Trump supporter and their "questions" about the Dems are insincere and are loaded pro-Trump or Republican.
So the questions about Trump's conduct come out to try to pierce that charade. Sometimes they maybe come out too quick but it is a reflection on the history of the thread, I can understand why.
(I don't think I ever made an accusation like that against you on the thread, and nor does it mean I condone all the content of posts directed towards you, I am making a general point here)

If you don't want to be tagged as a "Trump troll" (your words), wouldn't it be easier to engage with the questions?
The answers to which (or evasions or rape apologia or attacks on the victim) makes it obvious what kind of poster is being engaged with, and how to respond. Whether this is someone just looking for pro-Trump ammo or someone who you can seriously discuss the Democrat strategy with.

Because you can't have a "normal boards.ie debate" with bad faith posters concealing a pro-Trump agenda like that.

I am not defending trump by any stretch but you are wrong to say he’s a convicted rapist decided by a court of law.

He was convicted in a civil trial not a criminal trial so it’s not really the same thing.

Irrespective of that I wouldn’t agree with calling someone a “rapist supporter” because they think or support the republicans winning the White House in November.

okay and does that fact therefore mean anyone who suggests he is ahead in polls/beating Biden/has a solid chance to win in November make them a supporter of rape?

I don’t think so.

I don't think so either and have said so repeatedly on this thread.

But also:

So no merely pointing to the polls doesnt make you a Trump supporter ok with rape.... it is if you do so with glee and deploy weasel words to defend Trump of rape.

And let's not pretend there aren't such posters on the CA forum, dissembling that they are not Trump supporters. They are a material factor in how the Trump thread plays out.

In fairness, from what I understand from declassified docs recently released - he's not a rapist - he's a child rapist.

Apologies if this is not relevant to site feedback.

I was about to ask were there any admin around at all, because there's three or four threads in the last couple days in helpdesk / feedback that could do with their input, but emm....

Anyone with a brain cell who has even a minimal interest in US politics knows that Trump is leading in the polls. Why do you feel the need to keep repeating it?

You repeated it by starting a new thread about it ffs.

Oh I totally get it. I`ve seen the OP in action before on other threads. Likes to get the dig in and then claim innocence afterwards. Classic passive aggressive type. Does this mean I get reported and banned?

So over 50 percent of American voters are rape sympathisers. Thats the logic some posters are trying to push. Crazy stuff. I didn't know there were over 70 million rape sympathisers in the states.

Again. You don't seem to be getting the concept here.

This is not a thread about whether Trump is a great guy or not, nor is it a thread about the failings or otherwise of the OP.

It is a thread about whether serious accusations can be, or should be, thrown around at opponents in what claims to be a civilised discussion forum.

Should there be repercussions or is it a free for all.

And to be honest, it has merit. I have seen some of the goings on over the last week in the assassination thread and I have to say that some of the comments were pretty shocking.

Including many implying that the guy who did die deserved it for being at a rapist sympathiser event.

That is some extreme logic regardless of whether you support it or not.

I don't know if this is what goes on in the other Biden/Trump threads because I am just not interested enough to click into them.

But if it is in any way similar, then it sounds like everyone involved is just splashing about in a septic tank.