Speed Limit

yea those roads are well capable of 80, 60 would be a bit ridiculous alright

If cyclists dont feel safe cycling on the Tramore road then they probably shouldn’t cycle on it,as it is now its one of the most frustrating roads in Waterford to drive on you have auld ones already doing 60km on it causing traffic to back up with no safe place to overtake.

Tbh I think 80kph isn't fast driving but people have zero patience on the road as in the example you give. So what if someone wants to do 60kph, most often then not it's elderly drivers that want to drive at a safe speed for them. It's very rare I get caught behind someone on and 80kph that's doing a low speed but I'd show a bit of cop on when I do.

https://www.wlrfm.com/news/urban-greenway-tramore-waterford-334257

Not sure if we've heard anything else about this plan since last year.

All well in good in saying that, you can go down a rabbit hole in what should be happening the road …indicators, wrong turns on roundabouts will always happen. My main point is just have a bit of cop on when you come across it, dangerous overtaking or road rage etc is not the answer. Unfortunately from my experience as a driver everybody wants to get as quickly as they possibly can to their destination and you see some absolute stupidity on the roads.

Mad stuff, maybe bring the Garda RP unit up to strength or beyond preferably & enforce the existing laws, plus lots of tech that could be used.

But let's decrease the limits rather than enforcement.

Amount of "Ls" you see driving unaccompanied is unreal.

I know crazy shite.

And maybe statistical analysis of the numbers I.e. growth in population v numbers again crazy stuff.

Saying 104 deaths in 2024 versus 7 in 1935 sounds like a huge rise but it isn't pro-rata.

I realise it's not a minitab exercise but there's is merit in analysis.

Now ever death has a horrific effect on family and responders,no doubt but we need context.

anyways it all part of the green agenda make private car usage untenable!

And a nice revenue earner for all those juicy fines. F*** all to do with actual road safety.

Remember this in the GE with voting for Marc & Co.

…dont worry, marc and co are toast, and since we ll have another ffg government, radical changes will occur, cause that whats happens when governments stay the same……

You should probably re-read my post where I said SAFE overtaking not once did I mention anything about dangerous overtaking.

…i do agree with the refreshers approach, but i wouldnt go down the road of more tests, unless its found particular drivers are particularly bad after refreshers lessons….

…theres no question id fail the test if i done it now, so refresher lessons wouldnt be a bad idea, but this should all be included in road tax payments, not just more fees….

….not everyone thinks they are, i certain am not, but i think some think theyre good drivers, but may not actually be…..

….we all know tests are very stressful, and the teaching to test system is deeply flawed, most drivers probably change their driving habits post test, and not for the better, so i do think we all should be checked from time to time via mandatory lessons, and if its deemed from there that retesting is required, so be it….

Not trying to down play road deaths in anyway, maybe I didn't make my point clearly enough, the amount of cars on the roads has increased therefore unfortunately in all probability the road deaths and accidents will increase.

I agree with you on the use of technology I stated that.

On the green agenda its clearly stated to reduce substantially the amount of private cars on the road.

I would suspect by all means possible.

And yes I do see a lot of speed vans as revenue collectors with their placement.

I don't see the point in changing the laws maybe try enforcing the existing ones first by beefing up the RPU.

I actually agree with some of your post.

Phones, learners, drink drugs & excessive speeds are all major contributors.

Do the RSA release the specifics of crashes ?

I don't think they could be wrong, but there more going on than doing 90 in an 80 zone.

No, speed does not kill - as you say 'speed in itself does not kill'

So the BS Soundbyte of 'Speed Kills' is incorrect

Anyway we've moved on now from the disproven 'Speed Kills' to the new Town Markers on every motorway called

'Tiredness Kills'

So - which is it ?

More education for drivers especially in secondary school.

Mandatory re-testing of drivers every 10 years.

Remove ambiguity from road signage - near where I live there are speed bumps painted with white arrows - people who are not from around here decide that they are pedestrian crossings and guess what happens then.