Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Lol the game's not over yet after trumps speech. Threads gone awfully quiet. Cue all the Biden stans coming back saying he's the best candidate, nothing wrong with him, "dark brandon" (cringe) etc etc. If he doesn't step down this weekend of course. Then they knew all along, best president ever etc etc.

I don’t know what medical condition Biden has or doesn’t have but I’ve experienced enough serious medical conditions with elderly relatives and family over the last 30 years to know that something “wasn’t right”.

My personal view is that he is displaying a level of dementia type symptoms at this point simply because of some of the observed behaviours over the last year.

Doesn’t matter if my “diagnosis” around the name for his condition is wrong, the observed behaviours are concerning enough and need an open and honest discussion with the American people.

I found it extraordinary how the democrats tried to keep his condition, whatever it is, out of the public domain- that’s not democracy.

And it doesn’t at all bode well if Trump arrives in the Whitehouse next year- the Democrats have simply shown the way forward on how to keep the condition of the Presidents health and well being out of the public domain, not for a short period which is mostly justifiable, but for a very long time- the American people deserve better and I hope they start shouting for change in this area.

"I found it extraordinary how the democrats tried to keep his condition, whatever it is, out of the public domain- that’s not democracy.

And it doesn’t at all bode well if Trump arrives in the Whitehouse next year- the Democrats have simply shown the way forward on how to keep the condition of the Presidents health and well being out of the public domain"

It would appear that you have the medical condition "amnesia", as Trump's first doctor admitted to lying about Trump's medical condition, and his second one said;

“I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old"

This is the same Jackson that..

"was quietly demoted from his rank of Rear Admiral after a scathing DOD investigation into allegations of misconduct".

Hypocrisy once again.

Whatever physical medical condition Trump may or may not have had wasn’t as bleeding obvious as the one Biden has now and has had for some time.
His personality traits were clear for all to see - we didn’t need a clinical psychiatrists report on those -if you still decided to vote for the man then sorry youre not a particularly good judge of character would be my view.

he’s still alive today so obviously he had nothing life threatening to be concerned about, over and above the average old man in the street.

Rightly or wrongly, Trump is already facing accusations of early onset dementia in some quarters - if he gets into office, clearly we’ll never be told of this very important detail - so at best we can say Democrats and Republicans are equally as bad at hiding such details from the public - there’s no party coming out looking well on this point that’s for sure

I don't think she has any information which suggests another candidate can win but in fairness to her, you can't know what another candidate's chances are until you actually run with them and give them a chance to campaign. The logic of "let's stick with someone who will more than likely lose because we don't know if anyone else can win" is fundamentally flawed and is exactly the kind of staid, fearful strategy that has so far led them to being outwitted and outflanked at every turn in this electoral cycle by the Republicans under Trump.

What exactly is that condition? Old age? He's old. He stammers. He looked dreadful in the debate.

He'll still make a FAR better president than his opponent.

I don't think she has any information which suggests another candidate can win

Well that's a big problem, it's a pertinent question Biden, his campaign team and his supporters are to entitled to ask.

It's the main question.

The logic of "let's stick with someone who will more than likely lose because we don't know if anyone else can win" is fundamentally flawed

If you black and white it.

It could be the democrats have no chance whoever they put forward and whoever that may be may negatively effect down stream elections.

If for instance Trump was to open a more commanding lead over Kamala or whoever, then the hard core Biden supporters which number in the 10s of millions will be outraged.

Whoever you put forward is finished as a viable candidate for the future.

We are about to find out though, barring a miracle Joe is gone, unless he gets a bounce from his own party trying to "persuade" him to leave.

Heavyweights, like Pelosi and O'Bama, Schumer wouldn't be leaning on Biden unless they thought another candidate has a better chance

They also thought Clinton had a better chance.

Sheesh, it was a joke. It wasn't a campaign strategy ffs

Gallows humour is all ye folks have these days.

Desperate and hopeless describe Joe Biden's campaign alright.

Your argument about possible candidates not wanting to shoot their shot in this electoral cycle rests on the assumption that there will be an open election in 2028 and that assumption in turn rests on particularly shaky ground since Trump and his acolytes will likely look to fundamentally reshape the US government to the extent that they're allowed, and the extent that they're allowed looks considerably further than it would have been four years ago with a sympathetic Supreme Court and the potential for a civil service restaffed with people not with a loyalty to the US constitution and the ideals of liberal democracy, rather with a personal loyalty to one Donald J. Trump and will pull whatever strings they can in order to keep him and cronies in power in perpetuity.

We're not talking about the usual political games, here. We are talking about the potential fall of US democracy as it has been known, so if Newsom, Whitmer et al, are waiting until until 2028, they're idiots.

The Democrats don't seem to have a plan for anything - not a plan for how to defeat Trump in the election and not a plan for how to resist what Trump's team wants to do in the wake of his election. They're fúcked.