Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

There's been loads of polls over the last 2 years and they all say the same - You're acting the maggot there with the 'What polls, show me the links' stuff - unless you live in a forest that is

Just 2 that I happened to have to hand. The IDM and the IT

Thank you just out of the sea and I'm exhausted in 35 degrees shade now! Don't have the energy to be digging up extremely well known points at this stage. Like you said a lot of messers here. But appreciate you responding on my behalf.

Why were there none of these concerns when all the 100s of new apartments were going up in the area? I didn't see anyone protesting then

Doesn't answer my question, 75% are against what i asked the other poster. I have concerns over immigration and would respond a such if i was asked in a poll, but that doesnt mean i would actively oppose ipac centres or engage in violent clashes with the gardai

How do you know there was no concerns raised?

Oh right, follow the development and planning system for the North Dublin area in detail then do you? Or just because you resided on the northside of Dublin means you pick up your knowledge of the next few years of planning applications for fun then? I'm sure not even some of the local councillors in the area know as much as you claim to..

Announcements regarding dropping 500 to 1000 IPA's into an area isn't part of the standard planning process nor is it announced years in advance in the news so how would I know about IPAS centres opening exactly?

The vast majority of people in new apartment developments would probably already have a doctor, dentist etc.

500+ men from another country won't.

I think this sums up why we are where we are.

The world would be a far better place without the Bleeding heart lefties

They aren't saying it in good faith. Actually they will work hard to avoid saying it's a good plan because it obviously is not.

A feature of the Internet and platforms where people have discussions has always been that you will have a handful of people who, for whatever reason, get enjoyment from trying to paint others in a bad light. Implying, but not outright accusing, racism etc.

500 single unemployed males stuck in a warehouse, being promised all the opportunities in the world while being provided with none, is obviously an absolutely terrible idea. Obviously. Regardless of race or religion or any other factor. Obviously.

Some people are against it for racist reasons though and we can't be seen to be supporting that. Of course.

With social media and the Internet in general, we've manged to create a huge problem something like turkeys voting for Xmas because they've heard that racists really hate Xmas.

I don't recall seeing any T.D's being as vocal in their support of the people who elected them, according to videos on YT i've seen there's been no locally elected representatives down at Coolock trying to resolve the situation… This just feeds into the disconnect between those in power and the issues and people they're supposed to represent.. When no one is speaking up for you then it feeds into those encouraging violent protests..

They havent, but they did attend a meeting when the DOI held a consultation and told them what was planned and they said nothing there either.

SF should be all over this. It's an open goal and I'm starting to think they don't actually want to be in government.

according to the indo today - some coolock protestors are using provo tactics to split garda resources needed to tackle the illegal migrant protests hopefully this is not the case though there appears to be sadly calls on some social media channels to "blow it up" i.e. the crown paint factory so we could be facing an escalation in anti illegal migration sentiment if that were the case

Indo:

a person will call in a fabricated burglary or robbery, leading gardaí to rush away from the protest to the scene of the alleged crime,” a source said.

“Once there, the officers will be confronted by a number of people – who have the potential to attack them – while others in the locality are calling in multiple other incidents described as ‘ordinary crime’ to divert gardaí from the actual protest. It’s an attempt to cause mayhem.

“It’s all about dragging resources away from the area where the policing is needed most – it’s an old Provo (IRA) tactic from the Troubles in the North.

MLMCD has said that SF are a firmly left wing party, Eoin OBroin is a perfect example of it, so they definitely won't support protests of any sort outside an IPAS centre.. Again, all of this is creating a political vacuum where opportunist political figures can slip right into the frame and pretend they're representing the people…

Turning up on a coastline and scrambling out of a boat is one thing and it isn't happening on our shores. People are country hopping, ripping up documents, and crossing the border up the north, or presenting themselves at passport control in Dublin Airport and saying "sorry pal, don't worry about that flight I've just come off, I've no passport and I'm fleeing persecution...oh and you'll have to take my word for it"

Not sure if it's sinister forces at play, or just sheer government incompetence and fear that their EU masters might give out to them.

People fleeing conflict and oppression should be helped where practical but passing through numerous safe countries to get here shouldn't be the most favourable option. But I understand why it is given our welfare system is so easily exploited. It's bad enough when Irish people spend their lives exploiting it, but let's make it worse by opening it up to whoever wants it.

Our government should sort out our own country out before trying to save the world and everyone in it. And on recent events, how did they ever think putting a refugee center in the middle of Coolock of all places was ever going to be met with anything other than complete resistance?

These people are our leaders, God help us!