USA 2024 presidential election

I can’t see how Biden can stay in. The jokes were always there that he was old and doddery but he got by and looked mostly competent. Things seem to have gone very downhill lately though. I’d sooner see him re-elected if the choice was him or Trump but I honestly couldn’t say he’ll be in a state to do the job by the end of next year let along up til 28. That’s the huge problem. He just doesn’t inspire confidence. I can’t believe the democrats let it get this far. Mind you he seemed fairly well last year during his visit here. Something has happened in the meantime though.

Yeah I think the logistics of Rubio was to messy with both been from Florida, Burgum was meh but passable and supposedly Youngkin the Virginia governor was considered, I think if Trump had picked him that would have been massive .

Vance doesn't bring any new voters,,,and not as if Ohio was a concern for the Republicans.

Or they go with Harris as the nominee and pick one of those 2 as the VP pick to try and bring in a key battle ground state.

Trump needs a bit of decorum, if he can do that he has a huge chance hopefully

Looks like decency & democracy will be safe so!

Unreal.

This is gonna be interesting

My money is on Harris/Kelly ticket now.

Well done to Biden, took his time, but he reached the right decision. Hopefully the party can unite behind Kamala, and take the fight to Trump now.

Trump will be beaten now, they had to shift Biden.

It’ll be interesting to see how(or if) the trump campaign can pivot and have a good strategy on how to get a message about their democratic opponent that doesn’t involve their age. I still don’t know why trump picked Vance as his VP pick. Vance is not someone who will appeal to independent voters.

A convention would have been fun but its not the west wing so yeah best to wrap it up asap.

You will see a lot of definite predictions about who will win in November now and most of it will be wish casting, Trump starts as fav but Biden stepping down has given the Dems a boost when it comes to enthusiasm and fund raising.

I see a lot of people recycling "Biden's Age" attacks that the Republicans have been using right back at them with glee

Whitmer has said she won't run and has offered support to Harris.

Judging by right-wing accounts on twitter a lot of them seem to be sharing clips of her laughing. I think the intention is to depict her as unserious or manic but it has a lot of people scratching their heads

I'm sure they'll try lots of different angles until something sticks.

One of many creepy things about CFTrump, is that he never laughs. He makes fun of others but only ever gets that sh1t-eating grin on his face when he thinks he's been clever.

I believe we are now on the final stage from that tweet 19 days ago

It'll be interesting to see how Harris performs now as the candidate, what if any improvement she's made since 2019. I don't think she would have won an open primary, at least based off her previous efforts. Tulsi Gabbard destroyed her bid in about 2mins the last time out, and I imagine that's been on her campaigns mind. She will need proxies to do a lot of heavy lifting for her.

She is a word salad machine at times for sure, I think they may try and lean into it though which in 2024 is probably the way rather than ignore it. Clearly will help when her opponent rambles incoherently all the time.

A lot of Harris' current image is still drawn from peoples' impressions of her during the 2020 campaign. It was the height of anti-law enforcement sentiment in the US, and there was a conscious effort from both Harris and the Democrats in general to downplay her track record as DA in San Francisco and as AG for California.

Her achievements in both offices were significant, and I'd imagine that they'll lean into them a lot more this time around. Efforts to portray her as a lightweight can be knocked back significantly by pointing to her decade and a half running significant public offices before she was elected as a Senator.

At 4:00 min, Gabbard goes after Harris's record pretty savagely. Her history as a DA and AG in California is fairly controversial, and a definite weak point for her.

This article from 2020 goes into some detail on it.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/1/23/18184192/kamala-harris-president-campaign-criminal-justice-record

A close examination of Harris’s record shows it’s filled with contradictions. She pushed for programs that
helped people find jobs instead of putting them in prison, but also
fought to keep people in prison even after they were proved innocent.
She refused to pursue the death penalty against a man who killed a
police officer, but also defended California’s death penalty system in
court. She implemented training programs to address police officers’
racial biases, but also resisted calls to get her office to investigate
certain police shootings.

She brought in some progressive reform policies, but her office also pursued some frankly vindictive seeming efforts to keep innocent people incarcerated. It's a very mixed bag.

Another significant endorsement