Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

A massive fraud. You can tell he doesn't believe half the nonsense and bothsidesing he goes on with. The reality is he's getting a nice cheque in the post monthly from Bauer Media and in order to keep getting that cheque he has to give the counter narrative to the plain facts and common sense from Marion McKeone et al. I don't know how long Cal Thomas has been doing this grift on Irish radio, but it feels like a lifetime. I'm almost sure he was talking to Matt Cooper on the same show 25 years ago when I was commuting to college with a small FM radio in my pocket.

I'm absolutely sick of this rubbish in our media. If the Americans want to legitimize fascism and give endless passes to Trump and his cronies as they dismantle the state, let them at it. But at this point, in our media, I just want to hear from people with no agenda. Eamon Dunphy had a few of these characters on The Stand, and fair play to him, he got shot of the lot of them.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/19/politics/donald-trump-zelensky-phone-call-2024/index.html

Am I confused about this? I had a notion that it was illegal in the US for an ordinary citizen to have discussions with foreign leaders /representatives on matters relating to the state? I could be wrong but I thought I had come across this situation before.

It is a violation I believe of the Logan Act, one of dozens of transgressions that have yet to be acted on

It's always the same. I need to print a bingo card:

Both sides! Democrats are the Nazis! I'm not a Trump supporter, but! We were better off four years ago! Sure he didn't mean it like that ! He never said that! He's not a rapist! He's not a racist! Well, he didn't call *all* Mexicans rapists and drug-dealers! Biden is old! Biden wears diapers! No, it's totally different with Trump! Those wimminfolk and gays have enough rights already! Something, something woke! Something, something murdering babies! Something, something Jesus! 'Murica!

They just repeat the same old tired nonsense over and over and over again. It's just to create noise in the debate and turn serious debaters off so they'll leave the thread. It's just flooding the zone with sh1t.

That would be 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back, you couldn't pay me to watch him speak for 5 minutes. Anything he says is just verbal diarrhoea.

It's the equivalent of one guy distracting you while the other guy steals your wallet. Whilst Trump spews bulls1t, we'd want to watch what's happening around him coughProject2025cough.

Whatever comes out of Trump's mouth is of zero importance or interest.

The only slight consolation is that towards the end - I saw bits of it - the camera panned across the audience and the audience looked bemused and bored, and completely switched off.

Indeed they did as would most normal people- the thing was though, he wasn’t trying to convert the converted - his whole aim with that “rant” was to hit the tv watching audience at home- he had 90 minutes to “convert” them- over that time millions of Americans would tune in for even 5-10 mins - that was his goal- talk to them.

My question is, should he have taken a different tack?

By all accounts this “speech” could have been a repeat of 2016 in many parts - Hannibal lector included.
I think he wasted an opportunity and should have hit different notes, new notes, notes that would reach undecided voters - they’ve heard all this drivel before - they need something new to convince them - that’s why they’re undecided.
Trump won in 2016 because he was clever with what he said- but he needs to introduce new and updated concepts if he’s to win over and keep undecided voters.

Whether he thinks he needs to I guess is down to just how much ahead he thinks he is at this stage - but I think it’s too early to be complacent

if Trump fails to get the votes in November will he accept the result?

If it’s anyway close, no he won’t - I think we’ll get an idea of just how Trump thinks he’s doing about 2 weeks out from election day- if he’s talking about voter fraud blah blah blah then for me that’s a sign he thinks he’ll loose - if he’s way ahead I doubt we’ll hear a word about that end of things

No. He has already indicated that.

Didnt he promise coal jobs last time round?

Saying what he thinks republican voters want to hear and having actual prices are completely different things

So four more TantrumP years while the planet burns. Puts Nero’s fiddling in the halfpenny place.

Rightio. Why do you think he got 74 million votes? Why do you think he's popular? Would you care to actually share your thoughts or are you just going to work in generalisations like most people who come here accusing people of posting rubbish?

He seems back to his best 😁