Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

A massive fraud. You can tell he doesn't believe half the nonsense and bothsidesing he goes on with. The reality is he's getting a nice cheque in the post monthly from Bauer Media and in order to keep getting that cheque he has to give the counter narrative to the plain facts and common sense from Marion McKeone et al. I don't know how long Cal Thomas has been doing this grift on Irish radio, but it feels like a lifetime. I'm almost sure he was talking to Matt Cooper on the same show 25 years ago when I was commuting to college with a small FM radio in my pocket.

I'm absolutely sick of this rubbish in our media. If the Americans want to legitimize fascism and give endless passes to Trump and his cronies as they dismantle the state, let them at it. But at this point, in our media, I just want to hear from people with no agenda. Eamon Dunphy had a few of these characters on The Stand, and fair play to him, he got shot of the lot of them.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/19/politics/donald-trump-zelensky-phone-call-2024/index.html

Am I confused about this? I had a notion that it was illegal in the US for an ordinary citizen to have discussions with foreign leaders /representatives on matters relating to the state? I could be wrong but I thought I had come across this situation before.

It is a violation I believe of the Logan Act, one of dozens of transgressions that have yet to be acted on

The only slight consolation is that towards the end - I saw bits of it - the camera panned across the audience and the audience looked bemused and bored, and completely switched off.

Indeed they did as would most normal people- the thing was though, he wasn’t trying to convert the converted - his whole aim with that “rant” was to hit the tv watching audience at home- he had 90 minutes to “convert” them- over that time millions of Americans would tune in for even 5-10 mins - that was his goal- talk to them.

My question is, should he have taken a different tack?

By all accounts this “speech” could have been a repeat of 2016 in many parts - Hannibal lector included.
I think he wasted an opportunity and should have hit different notes, new notes, notes that would reach undecided voters - they’ve heard all this drivel before - they need something new to convince them - that’s why they’re undecided.
Trump won in 2016 because he was clever with what he said- but he needs to introduce new and updated concepts if he’s to win over and keep undecided voters.

Whether he thinks he needs to I guess is down to just how much ahead he thinks he is at this stage - but I think it’s too early to be complacent

If it’s anyway close, no he won’t - I think we’ll get an idea of just how Trump thinks he’s doing about 2 weeks out from election day- if he’s talking about voter fraud blah blah blah then for me that’s a sign he thinks he’ll loose - if he’s way ahead I doubt we’ll hear a word about that end of things

No. He has already indicated that.

Didnt he promise coal jobs last time round?

Saying what he thinks republican voters want to hear and having actual prices are completely different things

Jim Jones style fellowship

From the start, this thread has been trying to understand why Trump is so popular. Its true there is post after post of discussion negative to Trump, but that is mostly because it is virtually impossible to say anything positive about him. If there were anything positive why have the Trump enthusiasts not mentioned it?

In virtually every case his apologists come on and do what you have just done, they complain about the bias against him but don't give any convincing reasons why we should have a more positive attitude to him.

Please, instead of throwing insults around and daring mods to warn you (for what? Be civil and you won't get warned) give us some actual meat to discuss.

'Saying they are just dumb is missing the point' - ok tell us what is the point? What should we be aware of that we have apparently missed?