All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2024 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

Spot on Freney 👍

It's not the referee's job to create 'a game for the ages' or 'to let the game flow'. Their job is to apply the rules of the sport in a consistent manner.

For me, Johhny Murphy was quite good in general. But he didn't have the stones to make 2 big calls. Send off David McInerney for the trip 10mins from time, and call back the final shot for a blatant jersey pull.

The 1st of those decisions is inexplicable. He correctly gave a 20m free to Cork, thus acknowledging the foul. Therefore, it had to be a 2nd yellow for McInerney. I'd defy anyone to claim otherwise, except maybe a black card but the end result is the same. But Murphy decided he 'didn't want to ruin the game' by applying the rules of said game, and issuing the warranted 2nd yellow card. Either we have rules or we don't. Doesn't matter if it's the 1st round of the league or the AI final, the rules are the same.

Finally, is there anything to be said for getting proper umpires for AI championship games. And by that I mean not just 4 lads the ref has rounded up! Surely be to Christ, 4 intercounty referees could be used for the final at least? One from each province. A blatant 65 missed for Cork, again I'm guessing because the umpires weren't too enthused about making a bold but correct decision.

We're a long way off professionalism in the GAA, which is a pity given the efforts of the players.

A video assisstant is more apt.

Not sure what his point is. Any ref the aim is to get the big calls right. Murphy didnt. Based on that he had a poor game. Simple really. If the ten percent of calls are non game deciding calls then nobody cares.

Were they 10 frees? And 3 frees? Thats all that matters. The stats are irrelevant.

Had the better of Darragh Fitzgibbon today which was huge for Clare.

Not Corks fault that Clare gave them frees away?

if Clare had lost they’d be the ones howling at the referee now

Black card not given when pulled down in for a goal in extra time

Free count heavily in cork’s favour

Cork got a free in front of the posts for an off the ball jersey pull in the first half ( how many times did that happen in the game, but only cork get a free for it)

It’s easy to pick these out in hindsight.

Cork are obviously going to be bitter after losing a close game, as Clare would have been if they were on the wrong side of it, but the fact is the best team won

Yeah. The GAA need to lay down a marker with pundits and the media so that referees can properly officiate a game without being open to criticism for doing that. Or if their main concern is "letting games flow" then the GAA need to state that and that obvious fouls like jersey pulls, tripping, throwing etc are permitted and will no longer be penalised.

Just thinking it's a pity the all Ireland hurling final isn't played in September these days. If it was there's a fair few posters on here who would be tucked up in bed for school in the morn rather than posting bitter shite on here. Gobshites

Make no mistake lads, the inevitable is coming down the line. We postpone it for one more year, but it's coming;

They have been saying that since 2006.

Actually I think you'll find that the stats are all that matters. The scoreboard doesn't really do the qualitative stuff.

I think it's the opposite problem. I watched a spectacular match today, but you come on here and it's a bunch of moany arse old fogies whinging about how it isn't like in the good old days for various contradictory reasons (the game is at once more cynical and full of fouls than the old days, and the game is being reffed too strictly these days at the expense of the flow of the game). Whether you or I am right about the reason, the result is the same, amazing how negative this thread is (count the last twenty posts and see how many of them have anything positive to say) when you look at the actual match that was played.

And of course the usual self important condescending nitpicking from the usual source, with nothing insightful to say about the actual match but plenty of patronizing and snide belittlement of others. Clogs up every thread they aren't banned from.

It was a great match, watching the highlights back it was even better than I appreciated at the time. What amazed me was how direct both teams were, they had both been set up to beat the limerick approach, and the result was a much more direct game tactically when they got into it. It also allowed for some moments of fantastic improvisation like with the first Clare goal (which people keep calling o Donnells goal even though he didn't score it, but I see why!) Kelly's goal, etc. Was a joy to watch it and I thought Kelly in particular carried himself very well afterwards in his speech, interviews etc. Sometimes I wish Lohan would cheer up a bit but actually it's very funny that he is so stony even when he wins an all Ireland.

Congrats to Clare, think on balance they deserved it. Cork look to be the coming team but that's been said many times about the losing side, and it doesn't always happen, look at Waterford a few years ago... All Ireland day is for winning, there's no guarantee of a return. You'd have to feel for Horgan.

Every call is potentially game deciding in hurling. Giving a free for a throw ball on the half way line can be game deciding if you win or lose by a point. There's no non game deciding decisions. Its not like soccer or football where giving a throw in the wrong way can potentially lose a team a game. The ball would need to go through at least 2 to 3 more phases of play before a score, not so in hurling. There's players that would slice it over the bar from 60m out.

He got the yellow wrong on McInerney but it was a crowded area and could you really send off a guy in an All Ireland unless you were 100% sure. A penalty wasn't on the cards as Adam Hogan was covering across and Quilligan was much closer to the ball than O'Flynn.

You're right they'll be damned either way. But after after seeing this version of it I don't think it's fair on amateur sportsmen. The star's of both teams were absolutely banjaxed after full time.

At least in football it's played at pedestrian pace and neither team has to go hell for leather. That's not possible in hurling and they're absolutely killing eachother in extra time.

I agree, players these days whether 'amateur' or professional are a lot fitter than days of yore. And lets face it, amateurism only really exists in name in the bigger county GAA scene. They should be able to play the extra time and ideally finish it on the day.