Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans in OP**

it wasn’t a strange place to leave her boots if her habit was to put them on when she got up in the morning and to wear them about the house, as was recently revealed.

Another aspect that points to a morning murder

“What Sheridan and others don’t understand is that the boot would have to be retested using different techniques to obtain a full dna profile”

Maybe give him a ring and explain this to him, he might not be as up to date as yourself.

There are forensic experts consulted as part of the programme, as might be expected.

then perhaps they should have advised him on their expertise before he told the press a load of nonsense

Whats the load of nonsense? At the moment you havent given any real explanation.

What is the reason why the DNA information gathered during the previous test on the boot could not now be used to give an indication to ethnicity?

Or, to give an indicative match against the DNA profile of AN other, if not 100 percent then at least exclude with reasonable certainty?

What level of DNA nformation was previoisly obtained and what is your source for that.

Apologies, I meant @Day Lewin, not you!

Looking at it again, if the boots were in the front porch with the other outdoor boots, it would have made more sense for her to pull on her wellies. She is seen wearing her wellies in the video walking by the pump house.

She had no socks on, so it suggests she came downstairs in her bare feet, possibly from the bathroom, where her slippers were, and pulled on the boots to either go straight outside or potter about downstairs before going out.

I am of the opinion she was not wearing those boots out on her walk on Sunday, Tomi Ungerer described the boots she had on on Sunday as brown suede boots and that she was fashionably dressed. It's unlikely she would have gone visiting the Ungerers and Sullivan's pub in those boots;

More likely she was in the brown suede boots in the photo, at the foot of the stairs.

Also, John Harbison described how he removed the left boot without undoing the lace which had broken and was permanently knotted. So not really suitable for trekking in Dunlough.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1875176815301918

Very interesting…but was this around in 1996/7?

Even if not, will it work on "preserved evidence" years later?

Did anyone watch the program "The Wrong Man" on BBC2 last night?

Worrying parallels between the Greater Manchester police handling of the case of Andrew Malkinson and Gardaí handling of Sophie Toscan Du Plantier murder.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/jun/06/andrew-malkinson-bbc-the-wrong-man-17-years-behind-bars-review-dignified-devastating-tv

God, its all gone very quiet now with the so called new investigation into Sophie's death. Sounds like because the one they were so determined to pin it on has passed away, the desire for an outcome isnt as strong as it was before. Its looking increasingly likely, it'll never be solved. Just a mad story/event/tragedy whatever you want to call it which ruined many lives but as least it did shine a light on the incompetence/corruption/negligence within our own country. The only person I have any faith in to make any sort of reasonable developments is Jim Sheridan but he may not even have long left.

I was watching a documentary recently about a case in England, about 2010; where the police fixated on one person and arrested him, and subsequently (quite soon!) found that it wasn't him at all.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/16/joanna-yeates-police-apologise-christopher-jefferies

There are some parallels with the Toscan du Plantier case - but many significant differences.

The crime took place at Christmas - The body of Joanna Yeates was actually found on Christmas day. In this case too, the very cold ground temperatures were a factor in trying to estimate the time of death.

The police decided that it must have been her landlord - arrested and questioned him, and the poor man was denounced in the Press as a murderer; the real culprit was soon found, but they didn't clear Jefferies' name for a couple of months.

He did manage to win an apology, and he claims to have been deeply scarred and insulted by being unfairly treated as a suspect on virtually no evidence.

We don't KNOW if Ian Bailey was guilty or innocent; but imagine - if he was innocent - how much unjustified scorn he had to live with!

A cautionary tale.

Quite correct, duly noted! Even the real murderer - whoever it may be - is deemed to be innocent until found guilty in a court of law.

Another filler piece in The Sindo today,

Behind paywall, but a few bits here;

She was not interviewed by the original investigation team, even though she was in regular contact with her brother, who has been the main suspect for the crime for three decades.

She is understood to be one of several witnesses who have been approached for the first time.

Detectives also want to interview witness Marie Farrell’s son, Michael, who was just 10 years old at the time of Ms Du Plantier’s murder, to corroborate his mother’s statements. He was with her in 1996 during one of her sightings of the “tall man in the dark coat”.

Gardaí sought to interview Michael for the first time this year, but as he lives in Australia it is understood the interview has not yet happened.While requests have been issued through official channels to interview as many as 20 witnesses in France and elsewhere as part of the investigation, gardaí are not commenting on whether the man recently identified by Ms Farrell is among them.

DNA samples taken from 134 exhibits at the crime scene are likely to be sent for further analysis. One male genetic profile on Ms Du Plantier’s boot has never been identified.Fingerprints also remain unidentified. A statement from a garda technical expert in 1997 said the “many fingerprints” identified in the house belonged to the housekeeper and members of her family, but “a few” fingerprints could not be identified.

Garda sources say Bailey continues to be a focus of the murder investigation. Shortly after his death, officers searched his rented flat on Barrack Street in Bantry.Notebooks, papers, writings, his mobile phone and laptop and various storage devices were among the boxes of items taken to the incident room in the local garda station.

So, nothing in it really, just a journalist phoning the Garda Press Office only to be fed the same old fodder.

I haven't quite lost hope of the car.

A car must have been used in this crime; the place is miles from anywhere, down grassy lanes. The gate was pushed back, wide open against the hedge; you only do that for a car.

The crime was so brutal that the killer MUST have had blood on his shoes, sleeves etc.

By the way, the cars of all the local possible suspects were checked, as far as I know; and no blood was found.

So that car has never been located. But it must have existed! And if it is still around and not compressed for scrap, the evidence could be still on the floor mats.

A very faint, long-shot hope, like all the other hopes. But still, just possible.

Someone posted they're hoping sheridan might solve it

Sure he's only on the stdp gravy train

He'll have an angle to get the interest up

He's supposedly doing a mock Irish trial of Bailey

No doubt there'll be a big cliffhanger at the end while the country awaits the verdict that might have been