Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

The two sides arguing back and forth about the certainty of their victory is terribly tiresome to read.

In reality this completely changes the mechanics of the race. Assuming anything from here is incredibly naive. Harris may rise to the occasion and be an electric performer, unburdened by years of expectation and preparation leading up to this point. Or she may just suck, much like Hillary in 2016.

But assuming she can’t win ‘because she is a woman’ doesn’t stack up for me. Hillary lost because she had loads of baggage, was unpopular and came across as entitled and superior. Harris might be better than expected, all we really know is she never gained traction in the 2020 primaries. Playing the Vice Presidential role in a traditional way should not be over indexed imo.

As for Trump, their core angle of attack has been pulled away from them. Sure, they’ll argue this was ‘anti democratic’ and that the Dems are in disarray and that Biden should step down, and all that. But this will only carry for a week or so. Harris is going to have a convention built around her in a couple of weeks and will be sure to attack Trump’s sleepiness and age along with getting policy items firmly back on the agenda.

Absolutely, Trump will insult and jeer her like he has done every other political opponent, and the Republicans will drum up entirely new lines of attack on her, now that she’s in the spotlight. But don’t assume all of that will be easy. Some of it is going to be construed as dog whistling (no doubt some of it will be EXACTLY that) and swing voters might want to learn a bit more about Project 2025, now that the other option isn’t a feeble old man.

I would think Trump has an advantage, but it is very much a race in dispute once again. Most of us should be listening and watching right now rather than blah blahing our half baked TAEKs and assurances of victory.

Just to add some data..

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4785009-kamala-harris-polls-donald-trump/

At the same time, hypothetical Trump-Harris polling in individual states indicates a tough fight. Biden was trailing Trump in several key battlegrounds before dropping out of the race, and the latest numbers suggest a similar uphill climb for Harris. 

Trump boasts leads of roughly 9 points in Nevada, 7 points in Arizona and 6 points in Georgia, according to DDHQ averages. 

Trump is up by 4 points in Pennsylvania, 1 point in Wisconsin and less than half a point in Michigan — while Harris notches a 3-point lead in Virginia. 

Can Harris overturn that deficit? It would be Lazerus-like.

Trump doesn’t even have a policy of overturning the deficit (or for that matter any policies)

You keep banging the deficit drum but it grown the largest under republican presidents including Trump

Did you read the link I gave you?

The current deficit is much larger than any of Trump's years in office, once you take out his last year which was impacted by Covid.

I don't agree. It was always going to take some time for the messaging against the new opponent to emerge - we have to remember that Harris while the front runner by far, isn't the presumptive nominee yet.

But this is clearly not a masterstroke of political strategy, it's a move forced upon the Democrats due to the weakness of Biden. The swing behind Harris is likely a lot to do with practical reasons, aside from being VP making her the obvious choice being part of the Biden ticket can mean she steps into his planned rallies, fundraising and networks. The dems major figures also know that if they have an open selection at this stage, they are leaving the campaigning playing field open to Trump, while their candidates bicker amongst themselves. They need the candidate now.

I don't believe that if Biden had made his known his intention to not contest the election a year ago, Harris would have emerged as the nominee. Her role though as VP makes her the pragmatic choice in the circumstances.

Pretty sure a rapist would struggle to get elected in Ireland.... Also the UK if anything, has resulted in the public realising that the swing to the right has damaged the UK economy for decades to come.

Given the fact he has covid, guessing they're putting off anything like that until the end of the week. But I'm sure the conspiracy theorists will have something.

Clinton has been accused by numerous women throughout his life , and we've proof he abused his position in relation to Monica Lewinsky (even though it was consensual) so I think it's a safe assumption to make that he's a sleazebag in relation to woman and he's just not been convicted of anything.

OJ simpson technically isn't a murder either.

I think if there is a continuous pattern of accusations against him then I think it's safe to say they're all not lying.

He's as much a sleazebag as Trump it's just he's a democrat so it seems like it's OK to be a sleazebag for some people because he's a democrat.

Guys it’s 2024 not 1994

Not sure what Bill Clinton has to do with anything, we’ll beside him having less impeachments than Trump

It’s has been absolutely hilarious watching their heads explode as they don’t know how to attack her yet

We had everything from “oh she’s a black woman” to “but the deficit”

No, I don't think either is right, it's just the democrats and their supporters only seem to have a problem with one of them but not the other.

Trump is scum as far as I'm concerned but he's one of a long line of scumbags involved in American politics over the decades, it's just he gets called it for it more than others have.

In reality this completely changes the mechanics of the race. Assuming anything from here is incredibly naive. Harris may rise to the occasion and be an electric performer, unburdened by years of expectation and preparation leading up to this point. Or she may just suck, much like Hillary in 2016

not Bill by all accounts

Jaysus, will you give us a break. No amount of repeating OJ's name will advance your worthless argument an inch. Once again, Clinton has been accused of rape while Trump has been proven to be a rapist. Your mock outrage at the difference in how Democrats treat these 2 facts is laughable.