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Rapist sentenced to 8 years

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  • #392
    Jequ0n
    Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122401812#Comment_122401812

    I hadn’t been referring to you with my comment. We might have different viewpoints on this matter but I appreciate the ability to discuss this without malice, insults or armchair diagnoses being thrown around. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for everyone on this board.

    Thank you, I will watch the material.

    @Babyreignbow I don’t think that material is aimed at me, and I failed to recognise the significance.



  • #393
    Ezeoul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Personally, I will always treat apologists for those who rape and abuse, and then victim blame, with the suspicion and open contempt they deserve.



  • #394
    Babyreignbow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    The subject of victim blaming was touched on, I thought it might help give you some perspective but fair enough if you don't think it's relevant to you.

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • #395
    Jequ0n
    Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402405#Comment_122402405

    It was a good source to bring up because it might help others reading the thread.

    I don’t have emotional empathy though so it won’t work on me. As I said earlier on I was lucky.

    Post edited by Jequ0n on


  • #396
    Hannibal_Smith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122398599#Comment_122398599

    It's like trying to unravel a knot and you go for the easy loop by saying the woman needs educating. Its not that simple in reality. A lot of times with abusers they don't start off showing their abusive selves. It's a constant work in progress. They'll be all loving and attentive all the time slowly reeling in their person. The target will think they're different, they've changed, they've seen the real side to the abuser. The abuser convinces them everyone is trying to ruin their happiness. They fall out with friends family. The abusive control has already begun and they haven't even realised. As it increases and they start to wonder, who can they turn to? They've argued for and defended this person, how can they admit how wrong they were. The abuser susses they may have gone too far and the vicious cycle begins again, reeling them back in.

    The abuser is always the one in the wrong. They're the one starting out with full intentions of how things are going to go, they know and fully understand exactly what they're doing and that its wrong. The other person hasn't a clue and by the time they've realised they're so deep into it they can't figure out how to get out.

    Thankfully there are places like women's aid and men's aid that are there to help anyone who suspects or who is in a bad situation and it is always an option, especially if you feel you have no one else, to contact them. They will help you make a plan to leave safely. And believe it or not for the vast majority of people in a controlling and abusive relationship, their family and true friends will be there for them when they're ready. They are just wait and hoping to get a call.



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  • #397
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Taxi driver-child rapist, Shorten to be sentenced Monday. Three incidents. Was supposed to be yesterday. DPP looking for 10-15 years… so, out in 8-9 possibly. Not even 60 if freed. The man is a menace. Should be life for what he did, and for what he’s clearly capable of doing. And accepts no responsibility



  • #398
    Lecter8319
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Lecter8319


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403950#Comment_122403950

    don’t worry, even if he survives prison, he’ll be watched continuously & monitored very closely to prevent what happened, happening again. He’ll have a lot of restrictions & unlikely have a job so not much money to do anything either. Whatever happens, he’s done & will be in his sixties so it’s not like he can start over easily again



  • #399
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    13 years for raping a 7 year old child!!



  • #400
    Jequ0n
    Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411285#Comment_122411285

    It is a long sentence in all fairness.



  • #401
    walshb
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411683#Comment_122411683

    It is in its hole. For what he did, he needs permanent removal. I could be wrong, but a life sentence was available, or at least is available here. 13 years with remission and “good behaviour” is about 8-9 years. He deserved minimum 20 years

    still to be sentenced for taxi rapes. Deserves a proper lengthy sentence for them

    And what’s the bets the sentences for all three will be concurrent..



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  • #402
    mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭mountain


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411683#Comment_122411683

    you always seem to be on the side of the perpetrator



  • #403
    Jequ0n
    Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411724#Comment_122411724

    I’m comparing the length of the sentence to the usual ones that are given.



  • #404
    suvigirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,056 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411724#Comment_122411724

    No one is on the side of the perpetrator. Understanding the sentencing in this country and knowing that, in general, 13 years for rape is a good sentence, doesn't make anyone on the side of the perpetrator.



  • #405
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Technically it is on the right scale. Morally and personally I feel this man deserves a life sentence.

    Life for the seriousness of what he did here. We’re talking about the rape of a young child.

    but, legally the sentence seems to be in line with guidelines.



  • #406
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,906 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I don't understand the judge saying there was no mitigation in the case yet still knocking a year off and backdating the sentence to when he was first in custody. It shows how messed up our justice system is when we think 13 years for raping a young girl is a good sentence. This buck should not see the light of day again as he will be a threat to females till the day he dies.



  • #407
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411832#Comment_122411832

    Yep. And the rapist accepts no responsibility. Called it a 110 percent lie. No admission and of course, no remorse. 7 years old!!! Vile and very dangerous man.



  • #408
    Lecter8319
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Backdated nearly two years, will get 3.25 years off for good behaviour so 7.75 years left to go and hes what, 50. Other sentences will run concurrent id say. He'll be watched like a hawk I'm assuming when he gets out though but he could very well end up being attacked or worse inside or if he ever gets out.



  • #409
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412264#Comment_122412264

    Who’ll be watching him like a hawk?



  • #410
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    He should serve this sentence and when completed he should then serve whatever sentence is handed down for the taxi rapes.



  • #411
    Ezeoul
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411285#Comment_122411285

    Disgusting. Should have been life.



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  • #412
    Ezeoul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412264#Comment_122412264

    How is time off for good behaviour calculated, do you know?

    (eta) NVM, I see its one quarter. Shouldn't be allowed in cases like these, imo.



  • #413
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412497#Comment_122412497

    I think it’s 25 percent off the sentence is how they do it; or maybe that’s remission



  • #414
    newport2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412328#Comment_122412328

    Agreed. Concurrent sentences are a joke for crimes of this severity



  • #415
    walshb
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412530#Comment_122412530

    Yes. And considering the times between crimes as well. 2012 he rapes a 7 year old, and 10 years later he rapes two women. If ever consecutive was needed it’s here

    Wait for it: he’ll get 10 years for the 2022 rapes, that will run concurrently, and factor in backdating and remission/good behaviour, and he’s free around 2032



  • #416
    Jequ0n
    Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412553#Comment_122412553

    Why would the time between crimes be an aggravating factor?



  • #417
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412571#Comment_122412571

    I never said anything was aggravating:

    he raped a 7 year old and was free for years, and to then rape two more people, and to think he may only serve 7-8 years in prison. That stinks. He absolutely deserves consecutive sentences for separate heinous crimes..

    what about your view? You think his three rape convictions deserve what? Concurrent sentence?

    Consecutive sentences here are available for this animal.



  • #418
    Jequ0n
    Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412601#Comment_122412601

    I’m not affected by the crimes so I wouldn’t get hung up about the sentence being concurrent or not. In general I don’t think that concurrent sentences for multiple crimes of the same nature make much sense though.



  • #419
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412623#Comment_122412623

    So you haven’t answered. I’m not directly affected either. Not sure why you give a view if all it comes down to sure “it doesn’t affect me.”

    So you think he should be hit with consecutive here? Yes or no?



  • #420
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,065 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122411859#Comment_122411859

    and on the day of her mother's funeral. Should have been double.



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  • #421
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,525 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412681#Comment_122412681

    Truly depraved individual



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