Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Oh well that's that then. You might pop along to some of the protests and inform the crowds that the Government isn't completely incompetent, it's just that some people have unrealistic expectations and desires for Ireland.

Asylum seekers, economic or otherwise, and skilled workers coming in or out of the country are different things.

Asylum seekers aside, and forgetting about the people who may just want to leave and live abroad, but take all the non-national healthcare workers that come here and fill a void left by Irish nurses and doctors for example.

They wouldn't be required if the Irish could actually afford to live in Ireland. 10 Irish nurses don't want to share accommodation just to cover the extortionate rent, but 10 nurses from the Philippines are more than happy to. You see the problem? Well maybe you don't.

Nothing against said healthcare workers but they're not doing it for the good of their health, excuse the pun. They're being paid for it. And having personally seen such a group protesting about their visas and the fact their families are still in their countries of origin, guess what's next? More pandering and rule changes to bring their families over, and over time, further dilute Ireland.

In a tiny country, who's population is increasing from the outside in, it is estimated that 1 in 5 are non Irish born. At what percentage does that bother you, if any? 30? 50?

The rapidly changing demographic of this country in a time where MSM are telling us the tricolour is now a symbol of the far right, is worrying to say the least. We may as well tear up that proclamation while we're at it. That didn't last long.

But sure look this is all very one sided, and maybe I'm talking through my arse, what's your view?

Surely each country decides on its policies. So if Australia wants a particular set of skills for its country and many Irish people fit that requirement then who are we in Ireland to say whether that is right or wrong?

You seem to have the idea that if Australia or Canada accepts a number Irish people to contribute to their countries, we are obliged to take a similar number of international workers regardless of whether we have a need or capacity for them.

Also consider this

Ukrainians have been going home for medical treatment, they went home en masses for xmas 2022 and 2023 all at our expense. Hundreds of million euro.

Is there immigration checks at our sea ports?

Not a good look for Mary Loo

This is all going according to the Government's plan alright.

Ignore working class areas and small rural communities and shovel in the IPAS. The first have been let down by SF so that party's vote will continue to slide. OK then their vote will go elsewhere but importantly to a fragmented grouping of some sort but not to the previous nemesis and main opposition anymore. Small rural communities only have a few votes in them. Not worth worrying about at all.

Then the more salubrious areas which are traditional FG/FF but FG mainly are protected from IPAS centres, therefore their votes are secure.

Sounds like the Grand Plan to me.

We came home yesterday from Sweden to Dublin airport on a SAS flight, the pilot informed everybody on the plane that we would have to show our passports at the doorway of getting into the building, 2 immigration guys checking everybodies passports before we were allowed into the building, they pulled 2 muslim woman out of the queue and had them standing to the side…. never had that done before…

I believe it's Russian for propaganda.

The more people come in the more doctors you will need.

Isn't it a part of the problem anyway?

She'll just say those she spoke with don't wish to be named. Everyone should just believe her for God's sake, it's not in a politician to lie 😂

That's what Vlad wants you to believe! 😅

There is a lot of *ism and *phobias and funny labels thrown around when people feel someone does have different opinion. I reacted to that poster because I understand russian and wanted to point out that while we may believe something it may turn out not to be the case. Gript is a word and while not generally used nowadays it does have equivalent in Russian - хватка.

Thanks, I was being facetious.

While there have been questions raised around Gript, and it associated Catholic extremist organisations, fundings I've no knowledge it receives funding from Russia.

That said the Eurosceptic, anti-immigration rhetoric fits well with Moscow's agenda.

Same experience TAP from Lisbon. There was a family flying from Brazil I think and they were pulled to the side and then got a further grilling at passport control. From what i heard they were parents and some siblings visiting a family member here. It was quite the grilling and very loud aggressive questioning. The officer asked them "who told you to come to ireland" and "why did you come to ireland" even after they clearly stated their reason.

I was coming from Brazil aswell.

The customs officers were literally on the jetbridge!

Like you - never seen that before

Would be IPA's be using up more health resources anyway?