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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    It is the same nonsense about folks still moaning 8 years later about Independent Bernie not getting the red carpet treatment into the role of party that people have spent their lives building.

    Politics is ruthless, when it isn't you're very likely to be on the losing side. During the 2020 primaries plenty tried to push Biden out early but he fought through it got momentum and then bent the other candidates into coalescing around him. What Biden saw over the last few weeks is the other side of it



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    The only person trying to do the deflecting is you.

    It wont work.

    The last time I posted on this thread back in June I posted a Biden faux pas and said Biden wasnt playing with a full deck.

    Your riposte was

    "The 'centrists' getting ever more desperate in their attempts to re-throw MAGA mud at Biden. Predictable "nothing burger".

    Nothing burger eh ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,004 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cut the dramatics. Trump is already displaying signs, are you "concerned" over that? No.

    It's BS.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,210 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ive been critical of Biden, yes but he is by and large a decent man and doesnt deserve to be treated like this by a party he has given his life to.

    This is the first positive thing you've ever said about the man.

    Couldn't be a more superficial character if you tried.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,210 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It's Joever

    or is it?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Oscarmadison posted this link in mid June, about 9 days before the debate

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481849/democrat-plot-biden-replacement-clinton-obama-pelosi-schumer.html

    Now DailyMail.com has learned that if Joe stumbles in that first face-off with Trump or if his polling numbers keep falling, it'll take a united front of the liberal grandees to make
    Joe throw in the towel.

    'The only people who could force him out would be Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer,' one Democratic strategist told DailyMail.com. 'It would have to be the four of them collectively

    and said it may become a reality

    Here are a few of the constructive replies to his assertion

    It's not even speculation, it's purely hypothetical garbage - Podge_irl

    Keep buying those lottery tickets, dreams do come true (at odds of millions to one) - Duploelabs

    These rumors persist because the right doesn’t want to race against
    Biden. They’d prefer anyone else but the clean nosed Catholic they can’t
    even lay an email server on. And ain’t it just a treat that these
    rumors swirl around every name on the left that the right has built its
    entire base around despising and getting out their vote for? - Overheal

    the repeated claims by the GOP and their flacks that "the Democrats are
    planning to replace Biden any day now" are utter nonsense. -Quin_Dub

    Clearly between the Daily Mail junk article, what I'm seeing from
    Trumplodyte friends on FB, and now Fox news, the "Biden is too
    unhealthy" thing is "in the air." Probably because Ukraine's making
    progress in their war and so RuZZia needs to stir up the useful idiots -
    not you, but whoever fed the glurge to the Daily Mail or Fox news.

    Anyway, when you see it, just let it go. It's nonsense and just a CFTrump-favoring whataboutism. - Igotadose

    Nobody's taking anything badly. You made a hysterical claim and pasted a
    link to the Daily Mail, a well known spreader of fake news. People gave
    it the curt dismissal it warranted. -ancapailldorcha

    Before the last election we were told he was definitely going to be replaced at the convention , then after that we were told he was definitely going to (be forced to ) resign and allow Harris to become President and now we're back to "He's definitely going to be replaced at/before the convention".

    It's simply not going to happen. -Quinn_Dub

    Those lottery tickets sure paid off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    What does that mean, "politicians like power" … trite and irrelevant in the circumstances.

    Really?

    Biden was supposed to be the guy to beat Trump in 2020 and hand the batton to someone else.

    Instead he hung on for dear life, with his inner team (Including Harris), hiding him from the public at all costs. Then we had the infamous debate performance and even still Biden wanted to hang on….

    So yea, Poltiicans like power. And the main reason he was pushed was that the Congressional party who wanted to keep their seats, knew that a Biden ticket would have been a disaster for them.




  • Registered Users Posts: 83,210 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    "And ain’t it just a treat that these
    rumors swirl around every name on the left that the right has built its
    entire base around despising and getting out their vote for?"

    This lottery ticket did, in a weird way: whether intentional or not Biden served as a lightning rod, and now Trump is locked into a ticket that was coordinated to go all in with the "F* Joe Biden" rhetoric, and now they have no clear path to pivot upon, and are even raging demanding refunds for all the money the campaign has now squandered campaigning against none other than Joe Biden (in the strongest sense of the phrase 'none other', I've already seen MAGAs in my area retiring their "**** Joe Biden" signage as obsolete)

    And true enough the rumors about where the Dems turn next have been eg. Michelle Obama, someone they'd love to campaign against what with all the prebaked nonsense about her being a man in drag, and other racist/sexist conspiracy tropes that have been generated about her over the years since 2008.

    I don't pretend to know who the DNC will pick as the VP now but it's going to be a hoot watching MAGA and the 'centrists' come up with Qanonsensical reasons to hate the likes of people on the actual shortlist like veteran pilot Cpt. and Sen. Mark Kelly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    So in one post you deny that the Democratic party got up a bit of skullduggery in their containment of Sanders in 2016, and in this post you just claim, "The Democratic party can run their party as they see fit and make up the rules as they go along"

    So much for an open and transparent process! ROFL

    You cannot have it both ways mate.

    They remind me of SF, where the boys in West Belfast are the real power brokers of the party.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    But but but…. there are no party elites or powerbrokers in the Democratic party… it is a 'grass roots' organisation

    or so they try and tell us. :D



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I am, believe it or not I dont think Trump is fit for office, Ive said that for a number of years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Spot on.

    As I said in another post, Biden is a good man, just too old for the job and should never have been the nominee.

    It is funny to see the hypocrisy of those who did support him in full flow now.

    And it is very odd that we have not seen one word from Biden since his Tweet. Is he locked in his bedroom or something? Someone on VMTV said, if this was Russia and the Kremlin we would be thinking it was all weird and a coup was ongoing, but because its the Democrats, well they are all unicorns and lollipops aren't they, they would never stab a leader in the back for political gain…. no suree, and any talks of a coup is the realm of conspiracy theories.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    This election campaign will be historic for the character assassination of Joe Biden by his own party and peers, if the 25th ammendment isn't now used to make Kamala Harris POTUS the Democrats are pissing all over the political system and using only what suits their own interests.

    Biden can not now stay on in office if the party have asked him to withdraw on the grounds that he is unfit to run as their preferred candidate then he is unfit to continue in the position of POTUS. If Kamala is springboarded to.POTUS the asterisk next to her name as 47 will damage any legacy even if she wins in November.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Biden was just on a call with Harris at her speech at their campaign headquarters so you can put that worry to bed.

    I wish Irish reporters and politicians would stop trying to give their opinions on the US politics. They are so incredibly uninformed that it is an embarrassment.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,210 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What a load of bollocks.

    There is nothing in the law that says a POTUS who drops out of re-election consideration has to forcibly be 25A'd, and there is no "pissing all over the political system" for that POTUS to carry out the remainder of the term to which they were elected. 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Nonsense.

    Saying someone cant win an election and serve as president for another ~5 years is no where near the same as they are unfit to be president right now.

    A team deciding they aren't signing a player to a new 4 year deal halfway through the season doesnt mean he isnt capable of playing for the rest of the current season.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,656 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Biden was just on a call with Harris at her speech at their campaign headquarters so you can put that worry to bed.

    Ah right, coup alert averted so….



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    You need to learn to read. I said I don’t care what they did in 2016, because it’s up to them. I also said Hilary got 3m more votes. None of that contradicts the other.

    Anyone expecting a “transparent and open process” is an idiot. That isn’t how it works.

    No one cared how they picked their nominee until Biden stood aside. This argument you’re making is puerile. Each party decides how they pick their nominee. GOP, Dems, Greens, Libertarian etc. . Get over it and move on.

    I see you didn’t acknowledge that she isn’t even the nominee yet. She isn’t.

    Lastly, I’m not your mate and never will be.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    classic straw man. No one is telling you that. You’re simply making it up.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    …but that's just not credible given the about time and effort you've spent defending him. Even less so when you come out with lines like this…

    "We shall see who has the last laugh in November if Trump wins"

    That's not a comment someone who does not want Trump to win would make and is exactly the kind of illogical knots that I was talking about earlier.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Republicans demanding that Dems play by supposed rules, and complaining when they don't while pissing all over such rules themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    "Is Joe Dead?"

    An alarming question for a public to ask or even think but it so typifies Joe Biden's presidency.

    The truth is he's been effectively dead all the time. A more absent and remote POTUS you won't find.

    His presidency has been a massive con job. He is no such thing. It's rule by committee in the WH.

    Bizarro stuff. The POTUS all but resigns from office and the only evidence of his actions is a letter written by someone else with a digital signature.

    It's weekend at Bernie's.



  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭Redliketoast


    The irony is just too much

    You obviously heard the call so. Cool, you should let people know how informed you are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭Redliketoast




  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    Strong rumours are that JB is in a hospice.

    I hope it's not true, but,

    Would explain an awful lot and at the same time need an awful lot of explaining by the Dem committee if true.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    There's absolutely no reliable source for that. It's just some dodgy Twitter accounts claiming he might not survive the night. Since he was on a call last night, seems pretty ridiculous.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    What right wing media source is spewing this nonsense.

    It’s twitter, isn’t it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "I hope it's not true"

    Equally as unbelievable as the rest of your post.



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    So it's perfectly fine that the POTUS has disappeared?

    Phoning it in is ok?

    And he's been senile for years, yet only now it's popped up out of nowhere??

    Gullible doesn't begin to describe you lot.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Phoning it in is ok?"

    Sorry.

    I thought he was dead?

    How could he be phoning it in if he was dead? Are you suggesting some sort of séance?

    It's hard to keep up with such nonsense I suppose...



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