"Green" policies are destroying this country

First of all, there is nothing we can do about climate change. It was always there and always will be. As for more CO2 then I do have good news for you, in general more CO2 means more plants and food in future. We should do something about stopping water pollution but explaining that to someone who believe all that CO2 end of the world nonsense is moot.

DCC along with NTA are the ones pushing new traffic plans for Dublin etc

When Eamon Ryan goes and the plan continues who are you going to blame then?

We had uproar because people got asked to bring back a few cans/bottles to a machine to get a refiund, now you want them to bring back all packing and refill it?

In reality if that shop opened tomorrow, you would use once, maybe twice but majority of the time use a mainstream store. Now you can make up some story you want to say you wouldn't but thats the truth, plus the majority of people would do the same

As I said if Tesco could make more money doing the above they would do it tomorrow, they are meeting customer demands.

Most local butchers/veg shops etc are closing, not opening becuase people will go mainsteam. Our local butcher was about to go bust and now is full of packaged items and flying, the 2 for 10 etc and that. They had to copy the mainstream. The other one, which didn't go that way is gone. The butcher is now workin in the butchers in Supervalu

How have they ignored?

Tesco will just point to the fruit and veg section already in shops and people will buy the packaged items

What you say sounds great, I agree with it, but in reality that is not what people want.

You are blaming the Green Party for something that they can't control and the people you need to blame is the shoppers who don't want to bring containers.

Superquinn by the way was famous for better quality foods, less packing when I shopped in it and you picked the fresh fruit etc….what happened to it?

…so polluting the air is okay, but the water is not, thats interesting!

…its all about the balance, too much co2 generally isnt good for carbon based life form, ask the good folks of venus!

There is no chance that any environmentally concious person would even think about washing empty drink containers wasting drinking water. They are destined for (supposedly recycling) most likely just being sold to someone who is doing actual recovery. Cans go to foundry and plastics may or may not go to shredder and separation plant or incinerator. It does not matter, curious thing is that people who pontificate about conserving water suddenly think it is ok to wash 3,000,000 drink containers a day.

I would have to be bored out of my mind to even contemplate doing such pointless excercise. They go to plastic bin along with whatever leftovers are in them and re-turn can sort it out themselves. They should have plenty of funds for maintenance of their wonder machines from non claimed deposits.

What are you ranting about?

People wash them out so the remains don't fal out in car, if you have a setup that doesn't require it don't do it

What a ridiculous post

you would think our non existent military would spend money on what matters like increasing wages and getting new equipment

Speaking of ridiculous posts... Do they dry them out too? Otherwise all they're doing is swapping one liquid for another (or at least a diluted version of the original liquid) but Pat makes a salient point, why waste precious (treated) drinking water?

But then again, you seem to be the biggest supporter of this scheme and can't comprehend how inefficient and environmentally unfriendly it is. You still haven't explained why getting a printed piece of paper, that is only redeemable in the store where you used the RVM, is preferable to get a Revolut or bank transfer of YOUR MONEY back?

I said it in another thread and say it again. Scheme along with machines was intentionally designed the way to discourage people to use it. That way shop owners can have a piece of a pie in form of vouchers being redeemed as part of payment and operators can keep as much of non claimed deposit as possible. Actual recycling argument, is moot since empties will go to green bin and get eventually recycled as it was done before.

If this had anything to do with actual recycling and recovery then deposit would be much smaller and machines would accept any and every plastic bottle or drink can even crushed or damaged containers in bulk and sort them out in seconds. Payment would be send in app or account in seconds too. The same way it was done in quite a few countries. It cant work that way here since way too many pockets needs to be greased along with creating yet another quango with handy jobs for the boys.

wait wait he wants people to drive in cars using petrol or electricity that mostly comes from emitting carbon to recycling machines and not push pedals?

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The advice was always to wash out bottles/can before putting in green bins, long before the new system was in place.

How do you not know this?

In terms of the current system, sorry I can't help you if you are struggling with it. Maybe go to a local councillor, the library or someone in the area that can walk you through it if finding difficultly. Plenty of videos online as well

I already explained why no revolut or money transfer. You ignored and I doubt me explaining again wil make any difference.

Not my fault you don’t understand the recycling system which has been in place how many years now?

They are aluminium cans and plastic bottles. What filthy materials are likely to be lurking inside? Turn them upside down and give them a shake will get them just as clean as filling them with water (plus detergent?) and turning them upside down and giving them a shake.

There is also advice to crush the cans before putting them in the green bin, now the RVM wants them perfectly intact before IT crushes them - otherwise no money back for you. Care to explain why they need to be perfectly intact and spotlessly washed while they go on this car journey to the RVM that crushes them anyway?

You can't dry out cans unless you hang them upside down and let them drip dry. Do you honestly think that people rinse out and dry their cans before placing in recycling bin or Return machine? Same with bottles. If that was the case how would you recycle cans/bottles on the go? Do you seriously think people will bring them home, wash and dry them before bringing them back to the machines?

In fact the Return machines I use have a little sink beside them to pour out excess liquid. Why would that be I wonder