Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

If these voters care about immigration… then what's their reaction to Trump ordering his MAGA stooges in Congress to block the bipartisan bill to tighten the border.

If they don't know about that, they are ignorant, and it reflects it certain dumbness too.

If they do, and still think the Republicans care about immigration the way the voter does - then yes, they are stupid.

We can repeat the above on education, economy, inflation, crime etc

What's your trope? Pretending a sizeable % of the electorate they aren't stupid or bigoted?

I'm discussing it on social media, that doesn't mean I think a candidate should approach it the same way.

But yes, there are 'deplorables' out there, you're not going to win them over.

You need to try to reach the ones that can be swayed.

Easy. Biden got Covid and at that stage Biden took the decision that he felt it was better for the country to hand the baton onto another candidate. Harris was and is happy to continue to support Biden but respects his decision, for the sake of both the country and his health, to step aside.

Lets go through this slowly.

Why exactly did Biden step down, and no it was not because of Covid.

If these voters care about immigration… then what's their reaction to Trump ordering his MAGA stooges in Congress to block the bipartisan bill to tighten the border.

Because it will harm Biden, and Harris in the presidential campaign. Are you naive? The Democrats do the same ****, ya know. The system is fucked, I agree, but they all do it.

If they don't know about that, they are ignorant, and it reflects it certain dumbness too.

It must be great to be you, all-knowing and knowledgeable. You just are an overall better person.

If they do, and still think the Republicans care about immigration the way the voter does - then yes, they are stupid.

We can repeat the above on education, economy, inflation, crime etc

Not only are you a better person, but should go over to the Rust Belt with that line and moral superiority and point the finger personally until all the working-class folks get in line.

Sure, you can start in Coollock. Tell them all they are idiots and tell them to go home. Think of it as a dryrun.

Environments shape perception and reality. We think we know about middle America, but we dont.

To pay his debts he might have to sell the Doonbeg Golf Club.

Someone could buy it and rename it the Kamala Harris Golf Club yet!

my preference for her vice presidential pick would still be Mark Kelly. However, I don’t think the Democrats will nor should they announce who the vice president will be until the convention - let the names float around for a few weeks, let polling happen. Let Trump world spin its heels.

The thing is though, Hillary Clinton wasn't popular and won the popular vote by 5m people. Biden wasn't even popular in 2020 and he won by 8m people and also the Electoral College.

Biden wasn't popular in 2020 among Democrats, but the majority of Dems supported him because ultimately he was the best choice to beat Trump. He was competent, experienced and deemed to be a safe pair of hands to try get things back on track after Trump. But he was never that 'popular', in fact the word used to describe him most in 2020 was probably milquetoast.

Harris doesn't have any real issues in that regard. She doesn't exactly set the world on fire with how exciting she is, but unlike Hillary she's not 'unpopular', and unlike Biden she's not 'fine I guess'.

So it took him two days to finally realise Biden is not running

Please someone stop this elder abuse, Trump has clearly mentally declined if it takes him this long to comprehend his changed circumstances, and he still hasn’t come up with a name for Kamala

And this is a geriatric the republicans want to trust with nuclear briefcase

let people get to know the potential candidates flaws also 😀

I think Pete is a cool cabinet member but he seems too young and pencil neck for VP material. Hard to quantify this but I don’t think he has the veep factor. Not yet anyway. He could run in the future if he wanted, would make a great governor or congressman.

Josh Shapiro - well, CNN’s John King stepped on that minefield yesterday: him being Jewish might be a problem for the base in places like Michigan, or anyone rightly upset about the half assed handling of the Israel-Hamas “war”

Andy Beshear apparently didn’t receive vetting materials as of yesterday, maybe it won’t be him, he seems like a nice guy but he’s also likely crucial for keeping the KY governors mansion blue, that’s a state that went deep red for Trump yet the people love this guy as governor. He has the purple factor. Might be too important in his role.

Leaving in my mind Mark Kelly as the likely pick at the moment, and the Democrats could still maintain that senate seat in a special election, depending on who MAGA runs. Another election denier would be a poor choice put it that way. Would put the “war correspondent” pencil pusher marine and the draft dodger firmly in their place. The only negative I’ve heard about him thus far is “he’s politically inexperienced” and “he might not help swing the northeast” but also he’s a highly decorated and ludicrously experienced naval air combat and space shuttle pilot so I think he will be fine building on his political experience and hitting the national trail if need be.

Having a guy with military background as VP is never a bad thing and could swing a few wobbling Republicans too

I think the VP pick is likely to come from a swing state. Kelly is Arizona and so that would certainly be another advantage he has past his resume. Shapiro is Pennsylvania which is obviously a huge target for both sides, but Shapiro was also involved in battling against Trump's election fraud cases in PA. That could work for him, but would also instantly rile up Trumpists and would make a huge noise about electoral interference that might not be worth making for Harris at this point.

”Pokemon go fetch me another bottle of hot sauce for my purse meemaw”

She was deeply unlikable even without the baggage. Desperate efforts at pandering to young voters, black voters, and southern voters etc.

https://www.politico.com/video/2015/05/playback-hillarys-southern-accent-000346

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/hillary-clinton-pandering-radio/479004/

https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/pokemon-go-to-the-polls

Coupled with credible reports that she was a mean person with colorful language behind closed doors made her entire persona seem like Mom from Futurama. Unlikable and untrustworthy.

I could care less about the pantsuits. Least concern of all to me. She likes how she looks in pantsuits, looks fine, wtf do I care.