Cork GAA Discussion Thread

The advantage in that situation would clearly be to get a free 25 yards right in front of the posts. A dead cert point. It is not advantage to be taking a shot under pressure and with the opposition player having a hold of your jersey. It's different if it was further out and a difficult angle, and the ref gives the forward a chance to get his shot off, and then brings it back if no advantage accrues.

Brough my 10 year old to the homecoming tonight, as with all loosing one, the team is not really wanting to be there as the hurt is raw, but was great to see the amount of kids with hurleys practicing on the pitch. The event seemed well organised and well worth the 4 euro each!

Hopefully next year it will be a winning home coming.

3 soft goals? has it occurred to you that they just may have been 3 well constructed goals?

Yeah I was at it too. The only players that spoke were Hoggie and Patrick Collins.

Strange that Sean O Donoghue didn't speak, him being captain. Maybe he didn't want to.

Some of the players looked like they didn't want to be there, they didn't even look at the crowd when they were introduced onstage.

I enjoyed the Franks and the band that were on before them.

they were in there hole well constructed.. very few if any goals are 'well constructed'… Kellys goal looked great but it was shocking defending by Cork… Rodgers goal looked great… but he went thru a gap between 2 cork defenders… shocking..!! and dont get me started on the lame attempt by Ciaran Joyce to halt O'Donnell on his way to passing the ball to McCarthy for goal number 1… when i played my bit of hurling i mostly played in the full back line… i would have been fuming over Kellys goal especially… fuming..!!

I know there was a bit of despondency from some of the regular posters after the game and hints that we may struggle to get out of Munster next season. Big opportunity missed Sunday, sure enough, but there’s a decent age profile in the team and in a stronger position with some of the younger players more established. Couple of very good wins along the way. Need a bit more consistency but I’d be surprised if there’s not at least another final in the next few years.

County football championship starts this Friday evening. Barrs v Douglas is the live match on rebelsonline. I signed up for it for this year again.

re Cork were robbed - according to Michael Dignan, et al

(1). Cork had 97 minutes to beat Clare and did not. So this idea that it was robbed of a replay is a bit naieve to say the least

(2) re the ref and officials ‘ favouring ‘ Clare in some decisions. Cork had 97 minutes to counteract that. It’s like some teams up their effort when a player is put off . There are plenty of examples - even in tight matches-where teams with 13 or 14 players end up winning . Think the recent minor AllIreland hurling final re Tipp and Kilkenny. Cork should have ‘factored in this apparent “favouritism’ into its strategy and achieve the required score to win. Clare missed a large number of very scoreable points and two goal chances and this should have given Cork a ‘gee Up’

(3) I hope therefor writes a book some day and explain a few of his decisions - especially the last play. I am not finalist with the details of some of th new rules. But would it have been the case that the Ref - re the last play - saw the jersey pull and played advantage. He could have decreed that the pull did not interfere with the player striking the ball. The player was not running away so was not being held back by the jersey pull. The player just ‘mishit’ the ball The player did not capitalise on the advantage given and at that point we were TWENTY SECONDS OVER THE ALLOTTED TIME.
so the question is was the ref technically right/entitled to blow the final whistle at that point?

Also , maybe the ref did not see the jersey being pulled? Just because it was clearly seen on TV does not mean that the ref saw it

Lot of short memories in here.

Cork were getting ripped to bits on short puckouts. Defenders are an absolute liability playing it out.

Doesn't mean you stick with a losing strategy and hope it works out. Clare were all over the Cork puckout, that was clear from about the 20th minute onwards. For the next 70 minutes we stuck with that strategy and Clare ended up winning the majority of possession from our own puckouts. Sticking with the long puckouts was crazy when it clearly wasn't working.

I’m a bit confused with all the balls that Clare won - be they 50/50, 45/55 or whatever . And Clare winning most of the Cork puck outs when Cork got on enough balls to get THIRTY FIVE SCORES (35) and Clare’ s total was only THIRTY TWO (32) scores. What really won it for Clare , mainly, was their doggedness along with reading the game better -as it progressed- than Cork and adjusting accordingly.

Another point of note in the greater scheme of things is that Cork had reached its pinnacle in the game against Limerick and were not expected to reach even greater heights against Clare. Whereas Clare had loads of improvements do make on its performance against Kilkenny . And it takes an All Ireland to get that improvement out there. In other words Clare were on the rise while Cork had plateued

Sean O Donaghue needs to be dropped immediately from the panel. A big liability at the backline for a long time now. We cant win an All Ireland with him playing at corner back. Woeful defender. Destroyed by Gillane and caught badly for 2 of Clare's goals.

The long puckouts were absolutely not working. Clare won 55% of Cork's puckouts. Cork did well to keep in touch and Clare had some atrocious wides also. Clare scored 7 points directly from Cork puckouts in the 1st half alone as the half backs were cleaning up. Insanity to continue doing that over and over with no adjustments made at all.

It's not one or the other. That's binary thinking. You need to adjust and mix things up. Doing the thing that the opposition are profiting from continuously and hoping it will work at some stage is crazy and naive. As I said Clare scored 7 points directly from Cork puckouts in the first half alone. That's a "clown show", just not as obvious.

Cork lost the vast majority of the long puckouts but insisted on doing it anyway. The red are puckouts lost. Clare won 26 of Cork's 37 long puckouts. That's stark.

I haven't seen any speculation as to whether SO'D threw the ball to McCarthy?

His first handpass, for sure was legit, I saw a good angle from the end line, but the second one I saw no clear view…I felt the way he was falling and the speed of release, it's surely thrown…coupled with the fact that he's Cian Lynch's apprentice in the throwing stakes.