Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

it was a joke

I hope she’s learned some lessons

“Her one solo run for national office – a bid for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination – ended in ruins. While she surged early, a combination of fumbled interviews, a lack of clearly defined vision and a poorly managed campaign led her to drop out before even the earliest primary contests.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c035dp3glypo

Sorry, I don't mean Trumpists in PA, I meant in general (and Trump himself). It would open up conspiracy theories that he helped Biden win in 2020 and is now being rewarded with a top political position.

Now obviously, f*ck that nonsense, but it could cause a needless amount of noise and talking points that simply might not be worth it, especially with other suitable candidates. The margin between Trump and Biden was so much closer in Arizona than PA, and PA could likely stay Blue anyway with Harris rather than Biden. Arizona and therefore Mark Kelly might be the better way to go to try secure that State while also pushing to just get out the vote in PA.

I think just cut the legs out from under the Trumpists and at this stage, give them as little ammo as possible. If Shapiro was picked and Fox News et al start pushing that conspiracy, as nonsense as it is it's just not worth it.

She clearly wasn't ready in 2020. Since then she has been VP for 4 years, and has managed to get support from major hitters in the party as well as getting a direct endorsement from the POTUS himself.

It's an Irish social media forum, if we can't call a spade a spade here then where can we?

The truth is, and you haven't actually challenged the truth of it, is that there are racist voters out there, and there are ignorant voters out there, and there are dumb voters out there.

Your argument is going around in circles.
The Republican blocked the bi-partisan bill on immigration, so why should someone vote for them if immigration is an election policy concern for that voter? So why should the voter put any trust in the Republicans to do something about it versus Democrats? The Democrats have at least tried to do something responsible about it.

If they are an American voter who claims to be concerned about immigration, and doesn't know the Republicans blocked the bill (that's ignorance) and doesn't cop they did it purely for short term political partisanship (that's dumb). That's the reality of the situation. The rest of your post is deflection.

So for American consumption, the Dems need to use that campaign war chest and hammer the Republicans for blocking the bill, for pretending to be concerned about the border and immigration, but only using it as a political football. They don't care about it, they don't care about you, they are just lying to you to get your vote. So vote Democrat so the Republicans can't block necessary immigration measures.

A lot has changed in 8 years. Back then it was a defensible position to say that you were voting Trump for a) change and b) because HC was terrible.

Since then we have found out so much more about Trump. He was a uniquely lazy POTUS, spending so much time on the golf course. He gave tax breaks to the rich, not the poor. He changed nothing about the swamp. He is now an election denier. Convicted of fraud, and sexual assault. Anyone that worked for him is either not working with him anymore or in their own legal problems.

He didn't fix healthcare, or the border. He failed when Covid struck. There is literally nothing that could lead someone to vote for him.

Harris vetting five candidates for running mate, sources say

The Harris campaign has requested vetting materials on five potential running mates, according to two sources familiar with the list.

They told our US partner network NBC News that there were two other unnamed people possibly under discussion, but they have not necessarily been contacted for vetting.

Those named are:

• North Carolina governor Roy Cooper
• Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro
• Arizona senator Mark Kelly 
• Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer
• Minnesota governor Tim Walz
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https://news.sky.com/story/joe-biden-drops-out-kamala-harris-democrats-donald-trump-latest-live-sky-news-blog-13177655

who are the other two I wonder?

It would indeed seem to be another Trump bashing thread.

The rats have deserted the sinking Biden thread after their proclamations that Joe was not going to stand down and any insinuations that he would were conspiracy theories and far right misdirection.

Now they are rowing in behind Harris, Biden is cast aside.

Kamala is the new chosen one.

Anyone but Trump eh.

You seem surprised and upset people on here don't like Trump.

What is it do you think about Rapey Don that people don't like?

On the contrary, Posters have shown that far from the cult that is Trump, those who supported Biden were willing to accept that he was no longer fit for office, and would struggle to handle another 4 years. Biden could see the massive negative impact that his age, rocket fulled by that terrible debate performance, was having on his electoral prospects.

Unlike the Trump lovers, who despite everything continue to slavishly follow their leader. Sexual assault. Doesn't matter. Fraud doesn't matter. Trying to overturn an election. Doesn't matter. Losing the last election doesn't matter.

Nothing matters once their guy is still in the race.

I really like Josh Shapiro, but I wonder is him being Jewish bad for optics, what with Israel and everything.

Or I should say, would it be considered bad for optics?

the “rats” are the pretend centrists who jump from thread to thread pretending they “don’t support Trump, BUT… Trump isn’t technically a rapist because the jury couldn’t decide if his penis was big enough to not be mistaken for a finger,” and come onto the other threads complaining their nonsense has been roundly repudiated everywhere else.

What nonsense, that Biden wasnt fit for another term of office ?

That he was in cognitive decline ?

That multiple court cases against Trump were politically motivated ?

That nonsense is it ?

Because Biden is fit for office, but some issues are getting progressively worse, and seemingly the decline is speeding up.

Things changed in that debate. Biden failed the interview. Trump of course at the same debate lied and had nothing of significance to say, but due to the terrible performance from Biden that was ignored.

Trump is continuing to show mental decline. HE showed it during his time as POTUS, and like Biden, these things don't get better with time. But far from questioning Trump's ability to be POTUS again, Trump supporters are willing to ignore everything their eyes and ears tell them.

Man, you're only one dribble away from declaring that Trump was saved by the hand of almighty God.

Remind us again how second Trump presidency would be good for everyone?