Group patrolling the town

Agreed, however this group appears to be exclusively concerned with "migrants".

We could have a situation where someone feels concerned about a group prowling around following lads on their way home from work and forms a group to follow them. Then people get concerned by the group following the first group and form a group to follow that group.

We'll end up with half the town following each other around!

What does that have to do with vigilantes following them around?

Whether someone arrived here illegally or not, they are entitled to claim asylum. If you have something to post about that, id advise you head on over to the toxic echo chamber of the 'zero refugee ' thread.

They're literally protesting 100m down the road from the main drug dealers in town. Sure weren't the drug dealers protesting beside the concerned citizens for a while

Why would they protest the lad who supplies them with their weekend supply? I know a few of the protestors personally before anyone says "You can't prove that" etc etc etc.

Err, that still has nothing to do with following "migrants" around. Unless of course the lads doing the following know the immigration status of the people they're following.

Most of the migrants are crossing the land border.

I don't support the notion of vigilante groups. Why do you have difficulty connecting the fact that many asylum seekers are leaving with, but arriving without any identification and that makes a lot of locals very uncomfortable.

From a safe country where they almost certainly landed from another safe country. To get to the soft belly of Europe (Ireland, just incase that wasn't clear), the IPAs cross through two, three or more safe countries. And of the ones flying here, 85% have no documentation, or fake documentation. Despite that, not a single prosecution has taken place.

Well no, clearly it is not "purely against asylum seekers". Spin it whatever way you want in your head, but the fact remains that the Irish authorities are failing on many levels to enforce the law, or to listen to the people. It's no wonder there are protests, riots and people talking about setting up vigilante groups.

While I don't agree with non-peaceful protest, i'm not so closed minded that I can't understand why some people have lost patience and have taken it further. You might view it differently if the Government decided to dump a thousand undocumented men into a warehouse across the road from where you live.

There's a serious echo going on in this chamber. Someone might need to look at that.

I'm not here to discuss how migrants arrive in the country. This thread is not about that.

This thread is about vigilante groups forming "patrols" to follow those they can somehow identify as migrants by sight around towns, in order to monitor them.

Not about the destruction of passports, etc. Why are you having difficulty with that? If I wanted to join a migrant bashing thread, I'd be on CA. Not Legal Discussions.

I'll help you out there, as you seem to be struggling to connect the dots. There is no real discussion if you focus only on the symptom and ignore the cause.

This discussion thread is about vigilante groups forming to monitor migrants, as you have said so yourself.

I have provided reasons as to why they are likely forming. This is very much on topic.

In more detail, the vigilante groups are forming partly because the Government and Government agencies are allowing undocumented immigrants to enter the country. Because their passports are "lost", there is no way to verify who they are and if they have a criminal history. This is not migrant bashing, but it's easier for people to use all the isms to shut down any points they can't or won't address.

I have no doubt in my mind that some scumbags are taking advantage of the situation with the protests to be violent and thuggish because they are actually racists and/or thugs/criminals. Unfortunately that just takes the spotlight away from those with genuine concerns and fears who are largely ignored because they aren't the loud mouths seen all across social media.

To summarise in the most basic fashion:

Symptom = Vigilante groups monitoring illegal immigrants.

Cause = Government policy

It's very easy top say on the internet that you would have no problem with DP centres in your locality. I've seen people say the same of waste water treatment facilities, or injection centres, but minds change like the wind when these facilities are actually planned for an area. Not every community has pockets as deep as those in D4 to take out injunctions against the placement of illegal immigrants in their community.

I too would take issue with a vigilante group. They are not the answer, but as I said, I understand why some are going that way.

Clonmel.

Failed election candidate and village idiot fergus power is jumping on this idea now, He's setting up a registered security company, and you'll need a PSA license, but it'll be unpaid volunteer work apparently.

There are plenty of "economic opportunists" of our own who are the protestors. That's the main point people are making.

Also, many of these "Irish" protestors are not only economic leachs on our taxes but are also gangsters, rapists, murderers and paedophiles, convicted ones too.

Can you not see the irony here? Or more seriously, can you not see the problem with these people thinking they have the righ to take on policing duties themselves. It would be interesting if they had to have garda vetting as a prerequisite for joining the community patrol groups.

Apologies, I'm absolutely not endorcing the actions of violent vigilante thugs in any way. Previously reading through the thread, I remembered seen the destroying of passports mentioned, and then I'd seen that article published yesterday and thought it would be new information that was relevant to the conversation, so sorry but yes . . it was posted off topic.