Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

I would have thought threads in Current Affairs would be held to a better standard than After Hours

Have you been reading the thread?

The reason why that is being pointed out right now is that some people have a deluded notion of Trump as a man's man.

When he has been obsequious toad to dictators, and dodged military combat.

Also, a rapist. But I suppose that fits the bill of some people's view of what a man's man should be.

So a republican says on Fox News Harris is the original Hawk Tuan girl and that’s how she got to where she is.

They really have no low they won’t sink too.

Furthermore, I do not believe that American voters are ready for 2 women or 2 of color on the same presidential ticket; perhaps someday, but not today.

I think American voters aren’t just ready for two Black women on the same presidential ticket, there’s sufficient evidence which provides reason to believe that Americans are demanding it. I can remember when it was being said at the time that American voters weren’t ready for a Black President when Obama was running for the Democratic nomination -

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/01/barackobama.uselections2008

He turned out to be a bit of a damp squib -

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/barack-obama-donald-trump-us-presidency-black-lives-matter-hurricane-katrina-a7413416.html

But I think Harris offers a very different kind of hope and vision for the future of American politics and society and at a moment in American politics which there is even greater calls for a change in the political landscape to get away from the bombastic, peacocking old farts and vote for a candidate with some substance and integrity, who they believe could achieve positive change in America, for all Americans:

https://archive.ph/MOwfI

(small side note: I do wish they’d drop the ‘of color’ designation when referring to people who aren’t white, because while I understand that ‘people of color’ is a generally accepted politically correct term, it’s whitewashing, IMV)

What point are you trying to make? Seriously.

Ireland has a neutral policy as do other countries. Trump was the leader of the greatest military in human history. He gets a scratch on his ear and compares himself to soldiers, having 'taken a bullet'.

Why are you comparing a COUNTRY to a man. That man is clearly weak in substance in sooooo many ways. Not least the draft dodging. You'll repeat your point again surely, but at best it's very weak, just like your hero.

Ok, but is there not a difference being a conscientious or religious objector, and someone who chickens out with, "bone spurs"?

Again, deliberately missing the point. What's absurd is trying to pretend Trump dodging it was some statement on the justness of the war. It wasn't.

The reason why that is being pointed out right now is that some people have a deluded notion of Trump as a man's man. When he has been obsequious toad to dictators, and dodged military combat.

Also, a rapist. But I suppose that fits the bill of some people's view of what a man's man should be.

And if you are concerned about an administration of government bootlickers, you could at least try an act like it.

Trump wants a staff of government bootlickers. No more people like Pence doing their duty by the constitution.

More drivel from Trump.

"The environmentalists want wind… the wind kills our birds."

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1815919371908190252

He dodged the war, not on pacifist or ideological grounds, but because he is a selfish good for nothing. His sole thinking at that point would have been 'what's in this for me?'.

It's still the case today, I don't think he really believes in anything apart from himself (very much an American Boris Johnson).

Perfectly, it's a party selection process and the party can use any approach they want to select the candidate. Primaries only came in after WW2 iirc. She's got the membership backing and has secured the delegates. Also far more preferable for the party to have a definite candidate so they're being pretty sensible TBH.

What is she doing that think may not be legal?

The vote was overturned by the supreme court, it was called for the Dems until the Rubs complained. The court didn't even let the due process conclude. Thats a stolen election in my book.

Also on top of that he has a history of insulting war heroes and their families. That's why I'm somewhat hoping Mark Kelly gets the VP nomination. Him and Harris will outshine both of them but also think an astronaut and veteran has an appeal for a lot of Americans.