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The future of RTE after Tubsgate.

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    #332
    Shan Doras
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Shan Doras


    Speaking of "EU competition rules", It amazes me that the TV licence collection contract doesn't have to be put out to tender under EU competition rules, indeed An post getting a 6 millon euro government handout to "update the database" stinks to high heaven but it's not like any mainstream journalist is going to challenge this, they'll all be hoping to get a government advisor or quango job after the next general election.



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    #333
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 35,058 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Revenue already have the LPT database of every residential property in the country.

    Edit: that doesn't mean Revenue have to be the ones collecting. But paying An Post €6m to reinvent the wheel seems silly

    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

    © 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd



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    #334
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122424472#Comment_122424472

    They tendered out the drivers licence stuff to NDLS, arguably that went quite badly and they learnt from their mistake



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    #335
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122425051#Comment_122425051

    AFAIR the Drivers Licence was issued by the the Motor Tax office which was run by the local authority. This is slightly different where An Post are are Semi-State body and took over the licence fee after it broke from the Department of Posts and Telegraphs (Communications). In effect the gov have tendered out the collection of the TV licence to An Post, no government department or local authority collects this fee.


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    #336
    Shan Doras
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Shan Doras


    Are they planning to abandon the Radio centre and move all radio into the TV buildings ?



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    #337
    Shan Doras
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Shan Doras


    Aren't we already at the stage that the TV licence is farcical system? Am I right in thinking that if someone has a sky streaming package and a very large monitor without a tuner they are exempt from the TV licence?



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    #338
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 35,058 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    No because RTE is on Sky.

    © 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd



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    #339
    Ten Pin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    From broadcasting act…

    Definition of a TV (requiring a licence):

    “television set means any electronic apparatus capable of receiving and exhibiting television broadcasting services broadcast for general reception (whether or not its use for that purpose is dependent on the use of anything else in conjunction with it) and any software or assembly comprising such apparatus and other apparatus"


    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/act/pub/0018/sec0140.html

    Definition of "broadcast":

    “broadcast means the transmission, relaying or distribution by electronic communications network of communications, sounds, signs, visual images or signals, intended for direct reception by the general public whether such communications, sounds, signs, visual images or signals are actually received or not"


    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/act/pub/0018/sec0002.html

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    #340
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122431785#Comment_122431785

    Sky Stream TV and Digital Boxes come with a Digital turner build in, meaning that you have to have a licence, for both of these products, meaning that NOW (a sky product) is providing a streaming only service. (Perhaps you don't need a Sky Stream TV or Box for Sky Stream??).

    How many large screen monitors are sold for this purpose in any case? I'd say almost 96% people have some type "apparatus capable of receiving and exhibiting television broadcasting".

    Sky-Stream-back-ports (1).jpg

    Also the funding of RTÉ is a complete distraction from the issue of mismanagement of the service over the last decade or more.


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    #341
    RoTelly
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    It is amazing to think that most of the increase to the RTÉ coffers will be used to cut jobs, refurbish to building that they never maintained and to move in-house programming out of RTÉ.

    It astonishing how badly mismanaged the broadcaster was that all of this has fallen into the public domain following the fall out of the governance scandal.


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    #342
    Bobson Dugnutt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    They should have just taken the fee by adding it to electricity bills. No avoidance that way, guaranteed income, hotels and bars pay more. Clean. Collecting the licence fee via the current method means leeches are still able to avoid paying it. Every home in this country should have to pay the fee. It’s not a discretionary thing.



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    #343
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122443834#Comment_122443834

    So you think all of these problems were purely down to the 15% of people that don't pay the TV licence?

    Do you think that RTÉ are not leeches? They completely mismanaged the public service broadcaster over the years. Believing the own lies so they could avoid producing TV.

    Can you name one programme outside of sport, news and current affairs where you can say that RTÉ did a good job.

    This week RTÉ begins its Bus mans holiday, with reduction in news programming, this is the last month of exit out of montrose. Starting way back in May with the end of the Daytime show season, which won't return until October, while most current affairs programming have been off the air since the end of June, and now News programming gets cut in half.

    I don't see Virgin Media TV/ TV3 doing this. The news will continue, while they are removing The Tonight show starting next and it will return in September.

    That's not to mention that RTÉ failed to maintain their own buildings.


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    icdg
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122439102#Comment_122439102

    You do need a Sky Glass TV or Sky Stream box for Sky Stream, so that won’t get you around the license fee. As I understand the DTT tuner is switched off normally and only activates when the internet is down, as a sort of backup. It’s enough though.

    However, the eir, Vodafone, and VM services don’t have a DTT tuner, and I think there’s an interesting question there as to whether they attract a license fee.



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    #345
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122444063#Comment_122444063

    I had thought that way back as well. Though cable STBs would have a cable turner which would come under the act.

    I think you'd still have a hard time finding more than 2% of the population without a TV set as defined by the act. As TV manufactures get rid of the turner to save costs then you will see this increase.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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