Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

Burke by name, Berk by nature.

(As in Berkeley Hunt)

One advantage (for everyone else, not the debtor) of having a pile of unpaid court debt is that someone you attempt to sue in future can ask the judge for surety against costs; and on failing to get it, have the case kicked out.

So when he is dismissed eventually and inevitably appeals that decision to Court, the Department or Wilson’s can ask for surety and very possibly end this farce? Nice.

Mammy Burke’s in-house barrack-room lawyering service isn’t having a great 2024, all things considered

“Journalist” Jemima’s public order conviction at an “emergency” sitting of the District Court in Ballina following another episode in her rather bizarre targeting of Mayo University Hospital

Sacked solicitor Ammi running out of road in her action against the WRC (and indirectly Arthur Cox) when her appeal to the Court of Appeal was thrown out after noting that her behaviour was “utterly appalling and egregious” and despite professing to take her duties as an officer to the court very seriously she “repeatedly indulges in the most contemptuous conduct when before the court in a deliberate and premeditated manner”. Ammi was also ordered to pay the legal costs incurred in the Court of Appeal by the Workplace Relations Commission (WRC) and her former employer Arthur Cox. It remains to be see whether or not Ammi decides to apply for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court, no prizes for guessing how far that will get.

Enoch’s ongoing crusade against Wilson’s Hospital not going his way in any shape, make or form with sequestration of his assets looming

Enoch losing his defamation case against Mediahuis and having costs, include reserved costs and the costs of the court dealing with written submissions, awarded against him

The one ray of light was Simeon getting his 2023 conviction on a public order offence overturned, albeit having been despatched from the high court in a most unbecoming and undignified manner, before his career as a barrister ever got off the ground

At this juncture that’s at least three of them virtually unemployable in this country with at least Simeon, Dr Isaac and Josiah also “tainted” by their various interventions. Which just leaves Elijah, Esther, Keren and Kezia staying out of the limelight at present

What a sad waste of talent and intelligence with precious little either temporal or spiritual to show for their carry-on apart from contempt and ridicule

as far as they are concerned I’d say they think everything is going great they get exposure, the aul one gets to shriek like a banshee on the telly occasionally and everyone knows who they are, despite the obvious intelligence of them they are too stupid to see they have thrown their lives away to do mammys bidding, something I’d suspect a god would actually be annoyed about if they have given them gifts.

Here's a UK high court ruling on a case brought against a teacher there for his personal actions against a transgender pupil at his school based on his personal Christian beliefs. On the way court cases decided on in other jurisdictions can be taken and accepted as guidance [precedence-wise] it POSSIBLY could have a relevance to Enoch Burke's continuance in his profession here. It would be helpful if some-one with proper legal professional knowledge took a long look at the UK ruling to see if it could be seen as such by judge/s here when they are obliged to make rulings on similar cases here. Click on the MSN tag below for the newspaper ruling report.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/teacher-banned-over-misgendering-pupil-loses-high-court-appeal/ar-BB1qCru1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c3b5ba0c219a4bd29652868ec23d5a0c&ei=90

He said Mr Sutcliffe did not accept “that his right to manifest and express his religious convictions might have to be balanced against his professional duties to treat children with dignity and respect and to safeguard their wellbeing”.

This one is much futher down the line though - Enoch hasn't been definitively dismissed yet, never mind sanctioned by the teaching regulator.

However Enoch hasn't done anything of this sort, afawk:

"Rather, it is about a teacher who deliberately used female pronouns to refer to a transgender male pupil both in the classroom and then on national television in such a way that he would be “outed” without any apparent regard for a vulnerable child who was thereby caused significant distress.

“Further, it is about a teacher who told his class that homosexuality is a sin and implied that homosexuals might be cured through God without any apparent regard for the gay and lesbian children in his class and who made them feel that their teacher regarded them as worthless."

It must be emphasised yet again though that Enoch was not disciplined and ultimately dismissed (subject to appeal) because of his views on transgenderism, or his use or non-use of pronouns or names, but his conduct at a school religious service towards the then principal and his refusal to remain away from the school premises when suspended as a result of that conduct.

He shouted at the principal at a school event... So nope, that's the issue and he failed to approach the issue in the correct way. He wanted it to be high profile basically so got himself in as much trouble as possible...

There a regulator of teachers: it's called 'The Teaching Council' set up around 20 years ago. It's reputation as a regulator gets mixed reviews.

It has the ability to remove teachers from the register of qualified teachers, although the journey to have somebody 'struck off' is long, arduous and at times bordering on ridiculous. Some appalling actions by deeply unprofessional individuals have taken numerous years to see a conclusion. And I'm not speaking of violent or sexually malicious actions, which have criminal components. It's actually quite rare for a teacher to be sanctioned but it does happen.

As for EB, I can't see the Teaching Council revoking his licence to teach actually--- contemptible behaviour and acting like a religious maniac or zealot is unlikely to see him removed. Personally, I woukd kick him out fairly quickly given his nonsensical, hubristic and disruptive carry-on outside the school, but I don't run the Teaching Council.

No similarity and if you want to know why it has been answered on this thread over and over every time some "I'm not a fan of Burke but" poster tries to make this about him being sacked over pronouns.

I googled for info on the row between Burke and the Principal and found this excerpt of high court proceedings over the row. This is from an RTE report of the evidence given by the former principal on the events at the school including the particular mass service at the school where it was interrupted by Burke and she was directly addressed by Burke at the time on the issue of the instruction issued by the school to it's teaching staff on the issue of transgender pupils and what Burke called transgenderism….. This a is the RTE link to its report…. https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=70a11cb2304b7e2eJmltdHM9MTcyMTk1MjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0wNGY1NWYyZi1lNDBjLTYxMDgtMTM3OS00YjlmZTU0MTYwOWUmaW5zaWQ9NTUxNQ&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=04f55f2f-e40c-6108-1379-4b9fe541609e&psq=what+was+the+row+enoch+burke+had+with+his+school+principal&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucnRlLmllL25ld3MvY291cnRzLzIwMjMvMDMyOS8xMzY3MDAxLWVub2NoLWJ1cmtlLw&ntb=1

I've copied and pasted the first few paras of the reporters report below to give the gist of the spoken words given in evidence by the school principal in/to the court….. To do so with the entire report would take up too much space here so the link is above for the full length report….

The former principal of Wilson's Hospital Secondary School in Co Westmeath has said she was embarrassed for herself and absolutely horrified for a student when teacher Enoch Burke publicly accused her of trying to get teachers in the school to "accept transgenderism".

Niamh McShane was giving evidence in the case being taken by the school against Mr Burke.

Mr Burke is not present in court and it is not clear if he is listening to the proceedings online. He was ordered to leave the court yesterday by the judge after refusing to accept a ruling of the judge and continuing to disrupt proceedings.

This afternoon, Ms McShane was asked about a church service on 21 June last year. The service was to celebrate the 260th anniversary of the school and to honour those who had given service to the school. There was to be a presentation to former teachers and a dinner afterwards.

In the previous month, Ms McShane had sent an email to all teachers in the school asking them to address a student by a new name and with gender neutral pronouns. Mr Burke had said she was trying to force the teachers to "accept transgenderism" and had told her she should withdraw her request, which he described as a demand.

By the time of the church service Ms McShane had received emails from Mr Burke on the issue, and it had been discussed at a staff meeting, and at a separate meeting with Mr Burke and the deputy principal.

Ms McShane said the church service was attended by parents, pupils, past pupils, members of the clergy, teachers and former teachers. She said she had no notice that Mr Burke was going to say anything.

What Burke thinks the reasons for his legal issues are; and what they actually are are not the same

The UK judgement is not relevant as his legal issues are not connected.