Cork GAA Discussion Thread

So many Clare supporters saying how great it was that the reff "allowed the game to flow", in others words wasn't it great that he threw the rulebook straight out the window?

The fickleness of sport eh if it was Cork that won, i bet those same Clare fans wouldn't be praising him for letting it go! Either apply and enforce the rules or abolish them.

Just had a look at our records in both codes on finals day

Won 30, lost 21 in Hurling

Won 7, lost 16 in football

Record in Hurling is still very respectable for bit yet anyway. Football is poor although i think Cork were robbed of few back in early years over disputes. But still that's really desperate too ha.

Tipp are won 28 lost 13 (impressive).. Cats are 36 and 29.

Galway are won 5 and lost 25 ouch.

Are you guys surprised how quite the black card incident has been nothing about that?

Again ya get feeling had it been other way around we won that have been way more coverage.

Again though for me Clare deserved it and we move on but just surprised seen so little about it.

You can be big and extremely fit. All refs has a fitness test to pass.

@Seadin I'm on the mobile phone version of Boards.ie so i can't quote you directly, but yeah since 1990 the year we reached our peak as a county, it's been ten final defeats across both senior codes for four wins.

I would argue that in some of those finals we didn't get the breaks 1993, 2009, 2013 and last Sunday. We had enough chances to win in 2003 as well! We could've won another double in 1999 if it wasn't for Colin Corkery and Steven O'Brien sitting in the stands!

But then though you have years like 2007 and 2021 when we had no chance of winning. Yeah we've had more bad days than good since 1990 in both mens senior codes.

The thing is for as long as we have to pay off that Frank Murphy monument/stadium debt adequately financing the preparation of both our senior intercounty squads will continue to be an issue.

There's a reason why the county board were charging four euros for people to attend the homecoming!

Sunday was worse for me. We weren't on the wrong end of so many refereeing decisions in 2003 and 2013 as we were the Sunday just gone! We were architects of our own downfall as well of course. If we kept Clare goalless we would've won pretty comfortably enough but it's all ifs buts and maybes at the end of the day. We just weren't cute enough both on and off the field to deal with some of Clare's antics either imo.

With regards to 1992 the 1990 team was already on the slide at that point. We beat Tipp in Munster in a poor enough game. Limerick scored two late goals in that years Munster final, but we were comfortable enough winners really and we weren't that overly impressive beating Down in the semi final.

The final that year was a miserable wet and drizzly day, and while we never gave up Kilkenny were by far the better team on the day. Canon O'Brien's decision to have Kevin Hennessy and John Fitzgibbon switch positions, as well as the one to bring Tomas Mulcahy out to the half forward line were not exactly inspired ones! Why Barry Egan didn't get a runout that day i don't know. He had a great Munster final after all.

As for Derry in 1993 we were very unlucky that day, but it's the only all Ireland Derry have ever won so i can't begrudge them it too much.

Is there anywhere I can see a full replay of that final?

It doesn't seem to be on TG4 sport channel!

I'm saying this about myself as much as anyone else, but ever since the full time whistle blew in the 2006 all Ireland final, we've spent the last eighteen going on nineteen years since giving out and moaning about other teams being too tough and physical for us.

I'd say other counties see us now as a bunch of Walter the softies who don't like it when the going gets tough and dirty. It's up to the players themselves to change these perceptions people have of them.

Obviously refereeing and the application or in last Sunday's case non application of the rules is a serious issue, but when a team wants to wage war with us we need to adapt accordingly. There is times when you quite simply just have to earn the right to play.

For most part I totally agree. We need develop a strong mental attitude.