FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

It's fun watching them jump around making accusations about which party I support

As I have said many times no TD should be getting online abuse, that would then mean I support eveyr party and every independent 😂

Yea right. If ya think taxing the absolute shite out of everyone is the end goal. Or try out some social experiment You go vote the greens there. Don't think they even know what the words environment conscience means to be honest.

You are hiding behind an anonymous account on a slowly dying forum on the internet calling people "gobshite" when they got voted in by the Irish people numerous times. Including holding a number of Minister roles during his career.

"prove you wrong" 😂

Give me a shout when you get elected

Ireland is legally required to process asylum applications. They are not legally required to accept asylum applications, which is what you claimed initially and repeatedly. Thats again, a very obvious attempt to move the goal posts.

If Ireland began rejecting the vast majority of asylum applications, and deporting the rejected applicants, you can bet the number of asylum seekers arriving would drop like a stone. This is why people like Michael McNamara were calling out Helen McEntee recently on why our government is completely failing to deport failed asylum claimants currently.

Denmark introduced the 20,000e repatriation payment in 2019. Asylum numbers continued dropping afterwards, as the chart very clearly shows. Their numbers of asylum seekers arriving are still 90% down from peak, and a tiny fraction of what Ireland is receiving, so the collection of policies is still very clearly working. Your idea that it increased the number of asylum seekers entering the country is entirely a theory in your head.

I literally made a lengthy post a few pages ago outlining the multiple measures Denmark took to reduce the numbers of asylum seekers they recieve, including reducing welfare payments, which I stated Ireland could and should copy if our current government was in any way competent. The repatriation payment was one you seized on for some reason.

Ireland deported "less than 100" rejected asylum seekers between January 2023 and April 2024 [1]. Thats a rounding error compared to the 30,000 asylum seeekers arriving per year. The rejection rate is completely irrelevant when we're not enforcing deportation on those rejected and they're free to stay in Ireland. Helen McEntee has been repeatedly called out on this issue recently.

And that aside, you've literally repeatedly being arguing that Ireland can't reject asylum seekers because of "obligations". Its nice to note you've educated yourself on this and changed your tune and accept that we can actually reject asylum seekers if we wish to.

Yes, Ireland is required to process asylum seekers, not to accept them. Thats what I've stated from the start. I'm glad you're now grasping the difference.

Denmark's number of asylum seekers in 2023 was 2,479. In 2019 it was approx 2000. In 2015 it was 21,316. The idea that numbers "drastically increased" since 2019 is very clearly laughable - theyre still down by approximately 90%. And they're a fraction of what Ireland is recieving. Again, as the chart I posted (and have linked below) clearly shows.

I have never once made any comment about €38 per week, thats a strawman of your own attempted creation. I've simply posted a list of 10 or so very easily enacted measures, that have been proven to reduce the number of asylum seekers arriving by approx 90% in the real world, from a Northern European EU country very similar to ourselves.

I posted this list of measures the Danish government enacted that our government could copy tomorrow. But they haven't copied any of them, because they're failing on this issue - as the numbers of asylum seekers to Ireland continuing to increase every year very clearly shows.

Theres absolutely nothing stoppong us from copying the Danish measures tomorrow, other than the continued incompetence of our current government on the migration issue.

[1] https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/less-than-100-people-have-been-deported-since-start-of-2023-says-mcentee-1617326.html

That quote was in relation to letting asylum seekers into the country. Which, again, we do not have any legal obligations to do.

As seen by the fact you still, many many replies later, have yet to be able to link to a single document that states Ireland is forced to let asylum seekers in their tens of thousands into the country.

And as seen by Denmark, who're party to every international "obligation" that Ireland is, yet who've very successfully implemented measures to reduce their numbers of asylum seekers by 90%.

Denmark's number of asylum seeker arrivals are down by 90%. From 21,316 in 2015 to 2,479 in 2023. Thats effective government policy.

And Denmark's arrivals of 2,479 arrivals in 2023 contrast with Ireland's 17,000+ in 2023, and expected approx 30,000 in 2024. The statistics are very clear that their government is doing a far better job of reducing migrant arrivals than our current government.

And I literally posted a list of very succesful policies implemented by Denmark that Ireland can copy tomorrow here. Theres absolutely nothing stopping us from doing so, other than government incompetence. They're all completely achievable:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122406763/#Comment_122406763

edit, and just to make this even clearer for you, this chart is a very easily accessible summary of good, effective, governmental asylum policy (Denmark) vs bad, totally ineffective governmental policy (Ireland's current government):

disgusting isnt it ?

Spot on shinners are a disgrace interesting to see how low theyll go -sold out Paddy big time