Mayo GAA Discussion

Galway will have big regrets. Nerves seemed to set in and that's when you need your main men to step up. McDaid tried to lift it but couldnt do it on his own. Conroys legs were probably gone after a great first half.

All irelands are so hard to win and there's no room for passengers as we well know in Mayo. In contrast Armagh whipped off Turbitt early.

Joyce has been quite a lucky manager for my money. Things have fallen his way at times. They have a strong group of players and that has happened to come along when mayo, kerry and dublin were on the wane. Mayo and roscommon seem to be always on the opposite side of the draw to them in connacht, while it is hard not to mention the conor Loftus free in that was awarded for them this year that completly changed the rest of their season. Mcgeeney has earned his corn far more I feel and he deserved it more.

On the game today. Well one thing that comes to mind - if it was ourselves that had our two 'marquee forwards' either not feature at all, or have a nightmare on all dead balls... If it was ourselves who all (bar maher) went into panic mode when they actually had the momentum coming down the straight and the opposition were stuttering, and if it was ourselves who refused to kick long when the game was there to be won despite winning the aerial duel on opposition kickouts, I think there would be some amount of abuse incoming.

I dislike the bottlers stuff that has been aimed at us down the years. But if we had been guilty of all that, we would probably deserve the tag this time. It was a soft all ireland against a division 2 team. Hard luck to them, but they fairly blew it.

Comer Walsh and Kelly were all not match fit and it showed.

Did Joyce blame the ref as per usual when loses.

I hope the press slaughter comer Walsh and Co for not showing up like they did with our lads.

66% possession in the first half and got 6 scores.

The funny thing with some successful managers like Dessie and O'Connor is they never want to leave on a low unless they've had a run of several years without winning. I can see them doing another year.

I thought Kevin McStay was unlucky this year. Should have beaten Dublin, and no way Derry should have remained in the competition after 3 losses, but Mayo still should have had enough. He deserves one more year.

Regards Joyce, there's a chance he could be Galways version of Horan. Brilliant manager up to AI final day, then tactically weak on the biggest day of all.

McStay deserves another year for sure. The dispiriting slow build up play will have to change though and that may mean changes to the backroom.

Agree on Joyce. Far too loyal to certain players today. That has cost Mayo and Galway in finals.

Galway played a tame Dublin in a qf,not semi.

They looked over awed (unusually for a team that were in a final 2 years ago)

They shite the togs really and that was an easy all ireland .

I hope Joyce stays on,Mayo will beat that team 6 out of 10 times.

Harsh on horan considering what that dublin team went on to become, while 2014 was a disgrace and I believe had it happened against a kerry or a dublin we would have heard a lot more about it since. Our CB have to keep the head down because they are hamstrung with debts.

The loss to tyrone was a sickener, but we had a new team of young lads by then who were playing in division 2 all year. While this helped their confidence, they hadnt faced an elite team set up defensively up to that point. Galway on the other hand were an experienced team at the top of their powers.

In 2021, how experienced was O'Hora, or Plunkett, or Mullin, or Ruane, or Walsh, or Loftus, or Conroy, or ROD at senior intercounty football? How long had they been established intercounty starters? How many elite defensive teams had they faced? How many AI finals had they played in? For those who had - how old were they and wasnt that the covid final, with no supporters? Same goes for the majority of guys on the bench, and plenty more not in the 26. Aidan O'Shea on the oisin mcconville podcast indicated how mayo probably got a bit carried away after the Dublin win that year and how he spoke to horan afterwards about regretting not trying to reign things in a bit, with horan saying that he felt the same way - they were clearly a young and inexperienced team and that was obvious in how they played that game.

The 2021 Mayo team had vastly more experience of AI finals than the Tyrone team that beat them or the the Armagh team that won yesterday so l think we can knock the inexperience notion on the head. Inexperience didnt stop us knocking out a vastly more experienced Dublin team in the semi final. It has been more mentality issues than experience that has cost us finals.