Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

On the same day the terrorist state of Israel murdered 30 people in school and injured 100 more.

October 7

40 babies beheaded --> lies

Mass rape -→ no evidence

Civilians all killed by Hamas --> large numbers of deaths now attributed to IDf after Hannibal directive

Israel have blown up schools, universities, hospitals, almost everything in Gaza. Where to start, a policy of starving children.

You expect me to believe anything the Israeli state says?

Why not show pictures of the thousands and thousands and thousands of children Israel murdered?

I keep reminding myself of the nice Israeli people I met but Israel is a magnitude of order worse than Hezbollah. In my eyes they are the worst terrorist organisation active in the world. They can bomb Damascus and nobody even notices and on and on and on.

Then the same should be said e.g. claimed by the psycho killer state of Israel that double taps toddlers when sniping.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/19/gaza-hospitals-surgeons-00167697

But it doesn't happen like that. At least the times has balance but RTE has gone to the dogs and just been awarded 750 million by us for their Pravda reporting. I'm really angry with RTE reporting and that of the BBC and it's not just me, e.g.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/bbc-reporters-criticize-broadcaster-over-its-pro-israel-bias-coverage-of-palestine/3063212#:~:text=In%20the%20letter%2C%20the%20reporters,in%20the%20Israel%2DPalestine%20issue.

Just saw this and think J Cook gives the context far better than I.

https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1817365320656429265

BCC coverage of the attack on a football pitch in the Golan Heights has been intentionally misleading.

The BBC's evening news entirely ignored the fact that those killed by the blast are 12 Syrians, not Israeli citizens, and that for decades the Syrian population in the Golan has been forced to live unwillingly under an Israeli military occupation.

I suppose mention of this context might complicate the story Israel and the BBC wish to tell – and risk reminding viewers that Israel is a belligerent state occupying not just Palestinian territory but Syrian territory too (not to mention nearby Lebanese territory).

It might suggest to audiences that these various permanent Israeli occupations have been contributing not only to large-scale human rights abuses but to regional tensions as well. That Israel's acts of aggression against its neighbours might be the cause of "conflict", rather than, as Israel and the BBC would have us believe, some kind of normal, pre-emptive form of self-defence.

The BBC, of course, chose to uncritically air comments from a military spokesman for Israel, who blamed Hizbullah for the blast in the Golan.

Daniel Hagari tried to milk the incident for maximum propaganda value, arguing: "This attack shows the true face of Hizbullah, a terrorist organisation that targets and murders children playing soccer."

Except, as the BBC forgot to note, in 2014 Israel infamously targeted and murdered four young children from the Bakr family playing football on a beach in Gaza.

And much more recently, video footage showed Israel striking yet more children playing football at a school in Gaza that was serving as a shelter for families whose homes were destroyed by earlier Israeli bombs.

Doubtless other strikes in Gaza over the past 10 months, so many of them targeting school-shelters, have killed Palestinian children playing football – especially as it's one of the very few ways they can take their mind off the horror all around.

So, should we – and the BBC – not conclude that all these attacks on children playing football make the Israeli military even more of a terrorist organisation than Hizbullah?

The BBC next went to Jerusalem to hear from diplomatic editor Paul Adams. He intoned gravely:

"This is precisely what we have been worrying about for the past 10 months – that something of this magnitude would occur on the northern border, that would turn what has been a simmering conflict for all of these months into an all-out war."

So there you have it. Paul Adams and the BBC concede they haven't been worrying for the past 10 months about the genocide unfolding under their noses in Gaza, or its consequences. A genocide of Palestinians, apparently, is not something of significant "magnitude".

Only now, when Israel can exploit the deaths of Syrians forced to live under its military rule as a pretext to expand its "war", are we supposed to sit up and take notice. Or so the BBC tells us.

Hope the above answers your questions. I suggest reading a history book on Israel.

You're just spouting a load of old waffle!

There's only one terrorist state in this war, it's Hamas, the organization that is designated as such by every Western country in the world.

Netanyahu made his war aims very clear from day one of this fight. Israel must dismantle Hamas and remove it from control of Gaza. Hamas were the aggressor in this war, Hamas are the ones who continue to fight, Hamas are the ones that use women and children as human shields, Hamas are the ones responsible for the rape and murder of Israeli's.

Until this despotic regime is removed from power, Israel can never have security.

Thanks for the helpful suggestion to go and educate myself.

Your replies have very little connection to the issue I thought we were talking about but 🤷‍♀️

They and the links say nothing about RTÉ at all, let alone give evidence of a "Pravda" -like pro-Israeli govt. bias in its reporting about Israel-Palestine.

You just claimed it was so, based on nothing, as far as I can see.

What's the current revenge ratio for Netanyahu & IDF? 40:1?

If so, we may expect a few hundred Lebanese casualties till the score is settled.

17,000 children murdered in Gaza Francy, with an average age of 5 years. Were Hamas hiding behind all of them Francy? Israel is the real murder machine in the region for many years before oct 7th and the amount of Gazans and West Bank civilians killed by the Israelis is terrible never mind the land grabbing, illegal arrests, shootings and beatings of civilians has been long called out. God help you if you cannot see what has been happening for so many years. But I know you can.

It's very hard to tell. It's only recently become apparent that the IDF murdered Israeli's on October 7 after the Hannibal directive was activated.

The final death toll from the attack is now thought to be 695 Israeli civilians, including 36 children, as well as 373 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139.

So 36 children were murdered on October 7 but it's unclear how many were murdered by the IDF. Assuming all murdered by Hamas and 17,000 children murdered by the genocidal state of Israel. The child ratio is approx 472:1 but likely much higher with the lancet figure of 186,000 dead.

We need to be supporting Erdogan. Its honourable folk like Erdogan, Hezbollah and Hamas that will save the region.

Nato member now threatening Israel.

Another reason to never join.

NATO is a defense alliance, one member going rogue doesn't change that fact. Turkey cannot trigger article 5 if It has invaded another country, ie they are the agressor.

Expect Israel to call a ceasefire next week (after they massacred the population and bombed their homes to dust )and then on to Lebanon.

Of course this is when Turkiye isnt threatening Greece, a fellow nato member.

And Turkiye borders Russia, with both under creaking, end-stage dictatorships.

Then theres the US, a big supporter of Israel, which Turkiye has just threatened. How will they react tomorrow? Or in November.

All a powder keg. Nato on the edge of war in a couple of ways.

Not for us.

Why are you dragging NATO (a defensive alliance) into independent countries conflicts?

You've gone from Turkey v Israel to Turkey v Greece… make up your mind.

Can I see your map that shows Turkey sharing a border with Russian?